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Subject: Re: Fruit 2.1: an eye-opener?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:32:28 07/10/05

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On July 10, 2005 at 12:36:49, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>A couple of months ago I raved about the new Shredder 9. While I still think
>that Shredder 9 is amazing, the new Fruit 2.1 seems to have opened my eyes with
>regard to Shredder 9.  While I was not quite sure how to account for Shredder
>9's playing strength at the time I posted here, now things appear clearer to me:
> Shredder 9 is the best *searcher* of all programs and its search was much
>improved at the expense of "knowledge".  My original idea was that Shredder's
>author had coded more knowledge about space, tempi, some new extensions in the
>Q-search etc., but Fruit 2.1 and its evident success against Shredder 9 in their
>head-to-head battles on playchess.com have shown me that the secret of Shredder
>is definitely in its search.  How else would a simple, efficient deep-searching
>program such as Fruit 2.1 (knowledge-wise simple:-)) manage to be in a dead-heat
>race with Shredder 9 for spot #1?
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>Djordje

I do not think that Fruit2.1 is simple.

I did not learn most of it's evaluation and I hope that learning it's evaluation
will not only help Movei but also help me to be a better player(hopefully to the
level of 2200 fide rating).

About myself:
I think that I am in the level of 2000-2050 fide rating at 2 hours per game or
90+30 fisher time control inspite of the fact that my last Israeli rating is
2103 because I have to admit that I had a lot of luck in my last tournament
games including winning on time against a player with 2100 from a lost position
with 30 seconds incresement only because he forgot to look at the clock).

I also got amazing result of 9.5/10 against players with rating 1800-1950 when
in half of these games I came out of lost positions or inferior positions.

Note that I expect to save lost positions against weaker player and sometimes to
win but what happened in the last israeli update is clearly above my
expectations and normally I do not expect to get more than a draw in endgames
when I am a pawn down and it happened twice.

Uri



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