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Subject: Re: Fruit 2.1: an eye-opener?

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 09:34:15 07/11/05

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On July 11, 2005 at 03:51:28, Henrik Dinesen wrote:

>On July 10, 2005 at 15:02:44, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On July 10, 2005 at 14:23:58, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>So you say both are search-oriented because Fruit is so and then, if matching
>>>Sh, then the last must be so, also, only way to match it?
>>>Perhaps. But also...
>>>Perhaps It could be that very good search still is better that knowledge
>>>Perhaps it could be we still lack enough games to see.
>>>
>>>My guess is that each new generation of programs can see further and be better
>>>because they "stand on the shoulders giants".
>>>New programmer counts with an already developped cluster of heuristic to begin
>>>with AND with the freshness and enthusiasm of the beginning. His new ideas can
>>>be seasoned with the efficient old ones.
>>>In the meantime, old programmers tend to exhaust his stock of ideas and even his
>>>will to carry on.
>>>We have sseen both things many times alreadyu.
>>>My best to you and Alex...And wife
>>>Fernando
>>
>>Thanks Fernando,
>>
>>yes, it's always the guys who were here before us that we should thank for our
>>"new" ideas and we build on them.
>>
>>As for search, in a sense you are quite right:  I too believe that very deep
>>search simulates knowledge.
>
>Like when an intelligent human overcomes a mind-orientated task better than a
>well-educated human (expert) in his/her own field?
>When intelligence in it's hole concept moves towards an greater understanding,
>instead of just "simple" knowledge?
>I see it as a logic comparison, despite all obvious differences.
>
>Regards
>Henrik


You are probably right to a certain extent. In chess this looks obvious as chess
has only so many parameters and can be encompassed in terms of great search
depth (even by a promissory 'absolute search' by some susper computer in the
distant future).

With regard to human endeavour in other intellectual areas this is not so simple
as there are too many parameters.  However, I do agree with you that sometimes a
highly intelligent person can make up for his/her lack of expert knowledge by
sustained analysis and deep understanding of a subject matter.


Djordje



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