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Subject: Re: Is the SSDF taking a break from testing?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:34:44 07/15/05

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On July 16, 2005 at 00:38:19, Pallav Nawani wrote:

>On July 15, 2005 at 13:44:01, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2005 at 12:45:04, Pallav Nawani wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>...and 40 moves in 40 minutes is too fast for reliability, IMHO,
>>>
>>>Wrong. All available data shows that for ratings, time control does not matter,
>>>unless it is very small. Even bullet tournaments have highly similar ratings in
>>>most cases. What really matters is consistent testing conditions and the number
>>>of games played.
>>>
>>>>especially for
>>>>those who use the software in correspondence chess. The 40 moves in 2 hours used
>>>>by SSDF is best.
>>>
>>>SSDF tests on 1 Ghz Pcs , IIRC. CEGT tests on time control of 40/40 on 2 Ghz pc.
>>>Therefore CEGT time control is equivalent to 1Hr20Min per 40 moves on SSDF
>>>hardware which is quite ok.
>>>
>>>Pallav
>>
>>No
>>
>>SSDF test on 1.2 ghz and not on PIV that is slow for chess.
>>CEGT test on something equivalent to 40/40 on PIV 2 ghz
>Okay, I stand corrected.
>
>>CEGT also test without pondering so I think that CEGT time control is equivaelnt
>>to something like 30 minutes/40 moves in ssdf conditions.
>
>You are overestimating the impact of pondering. Most of the time engines just
>ponder on wrong moves, so that time is just wasted, even though incorrect
>pondering will fill the hashtables with (sometimes) useful data. But savings in
>case of a incorrect pondering are so small they are negligible.
>
>Pallav

I think that engines ponder on correct moves near half of the cases and I guess
pondering is equivalent to being 1.5 times faster.

Uri



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