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Subject: Re: thanks SSDF, but..

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 04:54:06 07/16/05

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On July 16, 2005 at 07:29:55, Steve Glanzfeld wrote:

>On July 16, 2005 at 05:33:39, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>I think that you want to "replace" SSDF, you need to at least reach the point
>>where people have heard of you! SSDF is very well respected. CEGT is just
>>another rating list, as far as I can see. That's not to denigrate the work that
>>is being done by the CEGT team, but you shouldn't go around talking about
>>"replacing" SSDF until you've earned a lot more respect in the community. All
>>IMHO of course.
>
>I am not a member of the AEGT/CEGT team, but I think it's the better rating info
>source. SSDF was great, useful, informative, even indispensable at times (10+
>years ago). It is great when long ponder matches can be played, but is it
>representative for the typical user's configuration, or for analysis (= primary
>use of engines!)?
>
>February 2005: release of Shredder 9
>    July 2005: no Shredder 9 in a public SSDF list yet
>
>(there were more examples like this, Chessmaster..)
>
>You will have heard of Fruit 2.1. It currently is the 2nd strongest engine. 2.0
>was very strong already, too. Imagine SSDF would be your only info source about
>engine strength. Oops. Never heard of this.
>
>Steve

I understand what you're saying, but I think that SSDF has a good reason for
being "slow but steady". In general, I have high confidence in what they put
out, even if it takes a long time to get the information. I think there are lots
of useful sources for information and I don't think that it makes sense to claim
that one particular one is replacing SSDF. You might argue that a whole lot of
lists and tournaments etc (including CEGT) supplement the SSDF's efforts and I'd
agree with that.

Andrew



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