Author: Juan Pablo Naar C.
Date: 16:58:42 07/22/05
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On July 22, 2005 at 17:51:46, Thomas Gaksch wrote: >On July 22, 2005 at 17:12:11, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>>that´s a long time ago. and of course you are right that this was absolutely >>>wrong from me. i apologized me for that many times. >>>but at the moment we are discussing what is the best and correct way to send >>>beta versions to tester. >>>i am not able to please everybody. and it seems that you can´t forgive. >>>after my wrong behaviour i tried to do everything correct. but the problem is, >>>that it is only a hobby for me and some people take that hobby to seriously. >>>for those people everything i do is wrong. fabien is NOT one of this people but >>>there are a lot others. >>>but don´t panic. if there are much more people like you i will stop working on >>>toga based on fruit because a hobby should make fun and i have no fun if i >>>always read threads like this. >>>at the moment there is a little bit action in the computer chess scene. and i >>>think toga was one of the actors which made this hobby not so boring. >>> >>>thomas >> >>Why don't you just publish the code ? >> >>Why do you keep displaying behaviour that suggests you are not willing to fully >>credit the programmer of which work you have tweaked and added a few lines of >>code, which you call Toga and treat like a private project. >> As a sign of respect you should publish each version that you tweak and send to >>people for testing, i mean if you a fully prepared to credit the true author, >>why haven't you already done this?. > >i will publish the code if the new version plays good chess. toga based on fruit >will never be private. >but it makes no sense to publish beta code. if i would do that i would have to >publish every week a new source code. and i also have no own homepage. so i >would have to ask alex schmidt every week if he could distribute a new beta. >sorry, but that makes absolute no sense for me. >and what has a beta version to do with the "fully credit to the true author"? >sorry, but at the moment i don´t understand the world anymore. >if you don´t like toga based on fruit and me than it is absolutely ok. it is >your choice to use it or not. but i do not understand your arguments. >if you want i can send you 6 different beta versions. i am sure the computer >chess comunity needs all these beta versions. >sorry, there is no logic for me. >thomas Hi Thomas, I'm sorry that my thread created confusions and flamings, I just wanted to know that if Toga II was available on a web page that I didn't know about it. I am a fan of Toga and Fruit and I really appreciate the work you are doing with Toga. It can be just myself, but I find clones interesting. New ideas, new implementations, new improvements that even the original author can learn from the clone. I think that this shouldn't be called "a clone", but "a modify". But sadly, the clone reputation has get really bad, programmers making clones of an engine and claiming that it is its own work. If every "cloner" acts like Thomas, the community would be better. By the way, Thomas is the very first programmer that doesn't claim his "modify" its own work. And Thomas, I wouldn't mind posting every source or releases on my webpage, 6 or 10, for the community to stop bugging you. Between, I will be happy to test Toga II 0.94 on my F.E.T (www.freewebs.com/chesstournaments) Best Regards, Juan Pablo Naar
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