Author: Peter Eizenhammer
Date: 04:05:27 07/23/05
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On July 23, 2005 at 00:57:56, Thomas Gaksch wrote: >On July 23, 2005 at 00:49:06, Thomas Gaksch wrote: > >>On July 22, 2005 at 19:22:19, Peter Eizenhammer wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>>>i will publish the code if the new version plays good chess. toga based on fruit >>>>will never be private. >>>>thomas >>> >>>Hello Thomas, >>> >>>your point of view is clear, but it is simply a matter of fact, >>>that it is not up to you. There are people who play with your toga betas online, >>>on the chessbase server for example, and this cannot be called private. >>>I think that is easy. So the only solution is: Publish any and every code >>>for every version someone gets to play with it . Annoying, maybe, but on the >>>other hand, >>>it is not really a problem: Many fans have some webspace, and there are the >>>"usual suspects" ;-), too, like Leo, Dann, and quite some others, you can even >>>send it to me, as a bad and not very powerful solution, an update every week >>>would not be a problem, I think, and everything is ok. >>>But the solution you have chosen, with publishing just the half way, to say so, >>>is really not a very good choice, and clearly against the GPL. >>>Strength does not matter in this context, so you dont have to wait until you >>>find some >>>great improvement, that is not relevant for complying with GPL. >>> >>>So it is quite easy to comply: just ask some nice person to host the >>>regular code updates, whenever there are any, and you and the fans of Toga >>>can have fun. >>> >>>(ok, there was one thing: Fabien had asked you to publish a, hm, let me say, >>>cleaned up version, with all the options from Fruit restituted etc. >>>This version should come out soon, without any regard of additional >>>improvements, >>>it would be good for keeping peace). >>> >>>kind regards >>>Peter >> >>hi peter, >>i am not so familiar with the GPL. i did not know, that i must publish an open >>source programm via download. i thought it is also possible via mail. and >>everybody who asked me about a beta version i send it to them (incl. source and >>GPL). i thought that was GPL compliant. >>of course i have no problem with the distribution of beta versions. toga based >>on fruit is no secret. >>i first ask alex schmidt if he is willing to host also beta versions. if so, i >>send the beta versions to him and everything should be ok. >>if he only wants to distribute final versions, which i could understand, than it >>would be gereat if there is an volunteer who wants to host beta versions. Dann, >>if you read this. would you be so kind to host the betas? >> >>my english is not so good. i do not understand what you mean with this sentence: >>"with all the options from Fruit restituted etc". what should i do exactly to >>satisfy fabien? >>thanks for your help peter. >> >>kind regards thomas > >hi peter, >i think i know what you mean. i should publish a version where he is named as >the "co-author". of course in the betas i have done this. ok, i will do it soon. >the next version i release is the 1.0. this version is a "best of" from toga >0.93 and fruit 2.1 with little extensions like another futility pruning and some >minor evaluation extensions. i will send this version this week to alex. i hope >he is not on vacation. >again thanks for your help. >bye >thomas hello Thomas, my English is excellent, too, so we both have a lot of fun in finding the wrong words :-) No, you may have missed this one: Fabien had wanted the original uci options restored, as far as possible, he wanted the hash setting to be "normalized", and maybe some more things, you are of course the person who knows better than me. In simple words: All the changes, that were necessary only for publishing toga as a non-derivative. I thought I got the point, and I am sure you do, too, we dont have to discuss this, as you have chosen to completely comply with the license, so there is no need to use exotic parameters or to hide any options. regards Peter
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