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Subject: Re: Chess960 mirror positions -> Chess480

Author: F. Huber

Date: 08:26:38 08/01/05

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On August 01, 2005 at 11:19:54, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On August 01, 2005 at 10:30:29, F. Huber wrote:
>
>>On August 01, 2005 at 10:18:44, Tord Romstad wrote:
>>
>>>On August 01, 2005 at 10:07:49, Andreas Stabel wrote:
>>>
>>>>Chess 960 is really chess 480 since half the positions are mirror images of
>>>>other positions and therefore funtionally identical.
>>>>
>>>>I do not understand why these mirror positions have not been eliminated.
>>>
>>>Because they are *not* functionally identical.  Castling is not symmetrical.
>>>When castling queenside, the king ends up on c1/c8, when castling kingside,
>>>the king ends up on g1/g8.
>>>
>>>Tord
>>
>>Well, I would say it _is_ identical, if you simply swap the meaning of O-O and
>>O-O-O. It´s almost the same as e.g. 1.a4 would be 1.h4 in the ´mirror´ game,
>>so it´s only a matter of naming conventions.
>
>No, it is not.  O-O and O-O-O cannot be considered equivalent, no matter how
>you look at it.  The king ends up on the knight file in one case, on the bishop
>file in the other.  All the 960 different starting positions *are*
>fundamentally different.  There is no way to reduce it to 480 positions.

Well, could you please explain, where the ´knight file´ or the ´bishop file´
are in Chess960??? ;-)

Franz.




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