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Subject: Re: Zappa looks to have a winning position over Fruit...

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 09:20:09 08/15/05

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On August 15, 2005 at 12:12:34, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 15, 2005 at 11:36:10, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>Just took a look at the Zappa-Fruit game and can't believe that Fruit was not
>>expecting the kind of lame beginner's trap in the opening.  It was so
>>predictable that the Zappa team would go for 1.d4...2.Nc3...3.f3... from the
>>previous tournaments.  Does anyone know who made the book for Fruit, or is it
>>just the stock book compiled by Dann Corbit?
>>
>>Djordje
>
>Can you explain what previous tournament you talk about.
>
>I did not learn Fruit's games.
>Did you see games when fruit lost against this line in some serious
>tournament(of course it was possible to test at home against fruit2.1 and find
>good lines against it)?
>
>Note also that I  believe that zappa 4 processors is also stronger than Fruit 1
>processor in nunn type match not because anatony is better programmer but
>because he could learn from fruit when Fabien could not learn from zappa and my
>estimate is that Zappa is already at fruit2.1's level on one processor and the
>improvement from Fruit2.1 to Fruit WCCC is smaller than the improvement from
>zappa 1 processor to zappa 4 processors.
>
>Uri

Erdogan Guenes made several opening books for several programs that participated
in different tournaments.  Besides, he is a regular at playchess.com where he
experiments (just like me and hundreds of others) with openings he likes.  I
just gave some more food for thought quoting his games in the pgn format in a
post below that you probably missed.

I don't know anything about the latest Zappa and, just like you, I think that it
is very strong.  However, I am convinced that Fruit could have had a much better
fighting chance given another type of opening, instead of the one played in
which it was merely a spectator with almost no counterplay.  All due to the bad
opening.  I also claim that Zappa's opening lines are extremely easy to predict
and can be met easily.  That's all.

Djordje



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