Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 06:49:55 08/19/05
Go up one level in this thread
On August 19, 2005 at 06:24:22, Jorge Pichard wrote:
Why are you saying that these positions created by ShredderFEN or X-FEN are NOT
Chess960 positions, and you refer to them as Shuffle chess?
>[Event "25 Minutes/Game + 5 Seconds/Move"]
>[Site "Engine Match"]
>[Date "2005.08.19"]
>[Round "37"]
>[White "Shredder Classic 1.3"]
>[Black "Spike 1.0 Mainz"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "[D]bbqnnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BBQNNRKR w - -"]
>
>1. c4 {+0.13/12 1:37m} c5 {-0.08/13 30s} 2. b3 {+0.16/12
>1:36m} b6 {-0.10/13 46s} 3. f3 {+0.08/11 1:06m} f5 {0.00/12
>34s} 4. e3 {+0.12/11 1:27m} d5 {-0.02/11 30s} 5. cxd5
>{+0.32/11 50s} Bxd5 {-0.01/12 30s} 6. d4 {+0.46/11 50s} Nf6
>{-0.19/12 1:11m} 7. dxc5 {+0.67/11 1:29m} bxc5 {-0.18/12
>38s} 8. Nd3 {+0.67/11 51s} Ne6 {-0.29/12 34s} 9. Bb2
>{+0.85/10 46s} Rd8 {-0.11/12 43s} 10. N3f2 {+0.84/11 1:35m}
>g6 {+0.03/11 28s} 11. Re1 {+0.72/10 48s} Qa6 {+0.08/11 30s}
>12. Nd3 {+0.54/10 48s} Rc8 {-0.04/11 28s} 13. Nc3 {+0.60/10
>47s} Bb7 {+0.16/11 28s} 14. Nf2 {+0.37/11 2:17m} c4
>{+0.31/12 42s} 15. e4 {+0.08/10 30s} Bf4 {+0.15/11 56s}
>16. Qc2 {+0.06/10 24s} fxe4 {+0.31/11 57s} 17. Ncxe4
>{+0.06/10 30s} Bxe4 {+0.35/10 25s} 18. Nxe4 {-0.35/11 53s}
>Kf7 {+0.30/10 42s} 19. g3 {+0.11/9 36s} cxb3 {+0.19/11 25s}
>20. Qe2 {-0.11/10 26s} Qxe2 {+0.10/12 56s} 21. Rxe2
>{-0.15/11 12s} Rhd8 {-0.02/12 50s} 22. Kg2 {-0.09/10 19s}
>Nxe4 {+0.20/12 24s} 23. fxe4 {+0.08/11 13s} Bh6 {+0.08/14
>51s} 24. Rf1+ {+0.05/11 15s} Ke8 {+0.06/16 1:07m} 25. axb3
>{+0.01/11 20s} Rb8 {0.00/14 29s} 26. Bc2 {0.00/11 15s} Nd4
>{-0.04/14 22s} 27. Bxd4 {0.00/12 28s} Rxd4 {0.00/15 28s}
>28. e5 {+0.02/12 17s} Rd2 {0.00/14 21s} 29. Rxd2 {+0.10/13
>19s} Bxd2 {+0.01/15 20s} 30. e6 {+0.10/13 20s} Rb6
>{-0.01/16 19s} 31. Rf7 {+0.19/13 12s} Rxe6 {0.00/16 28s}
>32. Rxh7 {+0.18/12 10s} Bc3 {-0.01/14 27s} 33. Kf3
>{+0.29/12 21s} Bd4 {0.00/14 26s} 34. Be4 {+0.35/12 17s} Rb6
>{0.00/13 17s} 35. Bd5 {+0.37/12 9s} Kd7 {-0.05/13 18s}
>36. Ke4 {+0.40/13 13s} Bf6 {-0.10/15 24s} 37. Bc4 {+0.37/14
>14s} g5 {-0.08/16 23s} 38. h4 {+0.64/14 16s} gxh4 {-0.10/16
>15s} 39. gxh4 {+0.36/15 25s} Rd6 {-0.09/16 16s} 40. h5
>{+0.60/14 12s} Rd2 {0.00/15 21s} 41. Rh6 {+0.34/13 17s} Rh2
>{0.00/15 14s} 42. Rh7 {+0.27/13 12s} Kd6 {+0.13/15 13s}
>43. Bf7 {+0.10/12 16s} Rh4+ {+0.09/14 15s} 44. Kf5
>{+0.12/13 5s} Rh3 {+0.09/14 14s} 45. Rh6 {+0.12/13 10s} Rh2
>{0.00/15 13s} 46. Kf4 {+0.14/13 10s} Rh1 {0.00/14 11s}
>47. Kf5 {+0.01/13 14s} a5 {0.00/15 13s} 48. Rh7 {-0.01/13
>10s} Kd7 {+0.09/12 16s} 49. Bd5 {0.00/13 10s} Rf1+
>{+0.13/13 12s} 50. Ke4 {-0.01/13 7s} Re1+ {+0.17/14 18s}
>51. Kf4 {-0.01/12 1s} Rd1 {+0.10/13 12s} 52. Bf7 {+0.06/12
>15s} Rf1+ {+0.11/13 12s} 53. Ke3 {+0.03/13 19s} Kd6
>{+0.09/13 12s} 54. Rh6 {0.00/12 7s} Kc5 {+0.07/12 10s}
>55. Ke2 {0.00/12 7s} Rf5 {+0.15/15 16s} 56. Bg6 {-0.02/11
>4s} Re5+ {+0.15/15 15s} 57. Kd3 {-0.02/12 3s} Kd6 {+0.09/14
>10s} 58. Bf7 {+0.19/12 7s} Rf5 {+0.10/15 15s} 59. Rg6
>{+0.21/12 4s} e6 {+0.06/13 14s} 60. h6 {+0.26/12 8s} Ke7
>{+0.01/13 9s} 61. h7 {+0.31/12 4s} Rd5+ {+0.01/14 9s}
>62. Ke2 {+0.51/12 5s} Re5+ {+0.01/15 9s} 63. Kf2 {+0.47/12
>3s} Bh8 {0.00/14 9s} 64. Bg8 {+0.66/12 3s} Re4 {0.00/15
>13s} 65. Kf3 {+0.80/13 4s} Re5 {0.00/16 9s} 66. Rh6
>{+0.75/12 4s} Kd7 {0.00/16 9s} 67. Kg3 {+0.75/12 4s} Ke7
>{0.00/15 10s} 68. Kf4 {+0.72/14 15s} Rf5+ {0.00/15 7s}
>69. Kg4 {+0.64/13 4s} Re5 {0.00/17 12s} 70. Rh3 {+0.65/12
>6s} Re4+ {0.00/15 12s} 71. Kf3 {+0.61/12 2s} Re5 {0.00/16
>12s} 72. Rh6 {+0.64/13 4s} Kd7 {0.00/17 7s} 73. Rg6
>{+0.65/13 4s} Ke7 {0.00/18 7s} 74. Kf4 {+0.65/12 3s} Re1
>{0.00/14 8s} 75. Rg5 {+0.65/11 4s} Rf1+ {-0.24/13 12s}
>76. Ke4 {+0.62/12 2s} Ra1 {-0.11/14 11s} 77. Rg6 {+0.64/12
>9s} Re1+ {0.00/15 8s} 78. Kf4 {+0.65/12 2s} Rf1+ {0.00/12
>6s} 79. Ke4 {+0.68/13 7s} Re1+ {0.00/5 0s} 80. Kd3
>{+0.65/14 4s} Re5 {0.00/15 11s} 81. Rh6 {+0.64/13 4s} Kd6
>{0.00/14 7s} 82. Kd2 {+0.65/12 4s} Ke7 {0.00/15 10s}
>83. Rg6 {+0.64/13 4s} Rd5+ {0.00/14 7s} 84. Ke3 {+0.64/13
>2s} Re5+ {0.00/14 6s} 85. Kf4 {+0.67/13 6s} Rf5+ {0.00/16
>10s} 86. Kg4 {+0.64/14 4s} Re5 {0.00/11 0s} 87. Kf3
>{+0.64/14 4s} Kd7 {0.00/14 6s} 88. Kf4 {+0.67/12 3s} Rf5+
>{0.00/14 6s} 89. Ke3 {+0.65/12 1s} Re5+ {0.00/7 0s} 90. Kf2
>{+0.66/13 13s} Kd6 {0.00/15 6s} 91. Rh6 {+0.65/13 5s} Ke7
>{0.00/16 6s} 92. Kg3 {+0.63/13 7s} Re4 {0.00/15 6s} 93. Kf3
>{+0.61/13 4s} Re5 {0.00/17 6s} 94. Rg6 {+0.62/13 4s} Kd6
>{0.00/15 8s} 95. Kf2 {+0.62/12 4s} Ke7 {0.00/16 6s} 96. Rh6
>{+0.62/13 4s} Rf5+ {0.00/15 7s} 97. Ke3 {+0.60/14 6s} Re5+
>{0.00/5 0s} 98. Kd3 {+0.64/13 4s} Kd6 {0.00/17 6s} 99. Kd2
>{+0.63/11 5s} Rd5+ {0.00/16 9s} 100. Ke3 {+0.66/12 1s} Re5+
>{0.00/7 0s} 101. Kf4 {+0.59/13 4s} Kd7 {0.00/13 9s}
>102. Rh3 {+0.59/12 3s} Ke7 {0.00/14 6s} 103. Kf3 {+0.53/11
>5s} Rd5 {0.00/14 6s} 104. Kf4 {+0.53/12 4s} Rb5 {0.00/13
>6s} 105. Re3 {+0.53/12 4s} Rb4+ {0.00/14 7s} 106. Kf3
>{+0.48/13 11s} Rb6 {0.00/17 6s} 107. Ke2 {+0.55/11 3s} Kf6
>{0.00/16 6s} 108. Rc3 {+0.34/12 13s} Ke7 {0.00/16 5s}
>109. Rc8 {+0.42/11 4s} Ra6 {0.00/15 6s} 110. Rb8 {+0.44/12
>4s} Rc6 {0.00/14 7s} 111. b4 {+0.49/12 4s} 1/2-1/2
>
>[Event "25 Minutes/Game + 5 Seconds/Move"]
>[Site "Engine Match"]
>[Date "2005.08.19"]
>[Round "38"]
>[White "Spike 1.0 Mainz"]
>[Black "Shredder Classic 1.3"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "[D]bbqnnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BBQNNRKR w - -"]
>
>1. c4 {+0.10/12 29s} c5 {-0.15/12 1:11m} 2. b3 {+0.04/13
>46s} f6 {-0.15/12 1:42m} 3. Nf3 {+0.15/12 30s} b6 {-0.11/11
>1:33m} 4. d4 {+0.17/12 35s} cxd4 {-0.16/11 1:19m} 5. Bxd4
>{+0.23/12 28s} d5 {0.00/11 49s} 6. Ne3 {+0.17/11 30s} dxc4
>{-0.13/10 47s} 7. Rd1 {+0.14/11 32s} Nd6 {+0.18/11 1:07m}
>8. bxc4 {+0.03/12 44s} Ne6 {+0.54/10 32s} 9. Bb2 {0.00/11
>35s} Nf4 {+0.73/10 23s} 10. Kf1 {+0.04/12 51s} Rd8
>{+0.66/10 1:11m} 11. g3 {0.00/9 30s} Qh3+ {+0.83/11 38s}
>12. Ke1 {-0.64/14 43s} Ne6 {+0.59/11 1:37m} 13. Ba3
>{-0.15/10 1:02m} g6 {+0.71/10 45s} 14. Nd5 {-0.14/11 1:25m}
>Kg7 {+0.88/10 48s} 15. Bb2 {+0.10/10 26s} Rhe8 {+1.24/10
>54s} 16. Qc3 {+0.08/10 28s} Rf8 {+1.10/9 50s} 17. Nxe7
>{+0.31/10 26s} Qg4 {+1.02/9 48s} 18. Rc1 {-0.18/10 41s} Nc7
>{+1.39/9 33s} 19. Qd3 {-0.33/10 32s} Be4 {+1.94/10 32s}
>20. Qa3 {-1.32/12 2:27m} Bxb1 {+3.37/11 48s} 21. Nc6
>{-1.36/11 21s} Be4 {+3.08/10 23s} 22. Nxd8 {-1.42/11 21s}
>Rxd8 {+2.97/11 40s} 23. h3 {-1.73/11 22s} Qe6 {+2.90/10
>48s} 24. Ng5 {-1.71/11 52s} Qe8 {+2.65/10 23s} 25. Rg1
>{-1.79/10 26s} Bb7 {+3.02/9 21s} 26. Rc3 {-1.96/9 21s} Rd7
>{+2.79/9 16s} 27. Rd3 {-1.62/11 43s} Qd8 {+2.85/9 15s}
>28. c5 {-1.80/10 19s} Nc4 {+2.56/10 30s} 29. cxb6 {-1.33/11
>19s} Nxb2 {+1.39/10 21s} 30. Qxb2 {-1.64/11 19s} Rxd3
>{+1.36/11 17s} 31. exd3 {-1.60/13 26s} axb6 {+1.45/11 16s}
>32. Qxb6 {-1.60/12 17s} Qd5 {+1.51/11 15s} 33. Ne4
>{-1.66/11 16s} Ne6 {+1.44/10 14s} 34. Qb4 {-1.69/11 17s}
>Kf7 {+1.56/10 19s} 35. Nc3 {-1.66/11 16s} Qd7 {+1.67/10
>13s} 36. Qc4 {-1.96/11 31s} Kg7 {+1.96/10 24s} 37. Ne4
>{-2.23/11 16s} Be5 {+2.03/10 17s} 38. f4 {-2.41/12 54s} Bd5
>{+2.19/10 10s} 39. Qc2 {-2.63/12 20s} Nd4 {+2.35/10 17s}
>40. Qd1 {-3.30/11 14s} Bc7 {+2.98/10 18s} 41. h4 {-3.64/10
>19s} Bb6 {+3.17/9 12s} 42. g4 {-4.73/10 17s} Qc7 {+4.77/9
>14s} 43. Kf1 {-7.71/11 28s} Qxf4+ {+5.47/10 10s} 44. Kg2
>{-7.16/13 54s} Nc2 {+5.64/10 11s} 0-1
>
>[Event "25 Minutes/Game + 5 Seconds/Move"]
>[Site "Engine Match"]
>[Date "2005.08.19"]
>[Round "39"]
>[White "Shredder Classic 1.3"]
>[Black "Spike 1.0 Mainz"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "[D]bbqnnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BBQNNRKR w - -"]
>
>1. c4 {+0.13/12 1:20m} c5 {-0.04/14 46s} 2. b3 {+0.16/12
>1:16m} b6 {-0.01/13 40s} 3. f3 {+0.09/11 1:02m} Nf6
>{-0.05/12 31s} 4. Ne3 {+0.42/11 1:07m} Ne6 {+0.02/11 28s}
>5. Nf5 {+0.43/10 54s} Re8 {-0.01/12 45s} 6. e4 {+0.61/11
>1:02m} Nf4 {-0.01/12 32s} 7. Kf2 {+0.78/10 23s} Bb7
>{+0.01/11 31s} 8. g3 {+0.88/11 1:32m} Ng6 {-0.01/12 31s}
>9. Bc3 {+0.90/10 46s} Be5 {+0.01/10 31s} 10. Bxe5 {+0.77/11
>1:13m} Nxe5 {+0.22/11 12s} 11. d4 {+0.62/12 1:06m} cxd4
>{+0.09/13 46s} 12. Qg5 {+0.47/11 1:00m} Ng6 {+0.04/13
>1:00m} 13. Qd2 {+0.41/11 44s} d6 {+0.07/12 1:02m} 14. Qxd4
>{+0.43/11 49s} Ne5 {+0.04/12 1:04m} 15. a3 {+0.41/10 36s}
>g6 {+0.05/10 23s} 16. Ne3 {+0.17/11 38s} Kg7 {+0.01/11 39s}
>17. h3 {+0.09/11 50s} h5 {0.00/11 28s} 18. f4 {+0.36/11
>49s} Nc6 {-0.05/13 57s} 19. Qc3 {+0.13/11 54s} e5 {+0.25/13
>1:14m} 20. Nd5 {-0.02/10 30s} Nxd5 {+0.55/11 25s} 21. cxd5
>{-0.25/11 29s} Nd4 {+0.66/12 42s} 22. Qe3 {-0.27/10 17s}
>Ba6 {+0.72/11 23s} 23. Bd3 {-0.12/9 5s} Bxd3 {+0.74/11 23s}
>24. Qxd3 {-0.47/11 10s} f5 {+0.81/12 32s} 25. fxe5
>{-0.32/11 36s} dxe5 {+0.99/12 21s} 26. Kg2 {-0.75/11 44s}
>fxe4 {+0.89/12 26s} 27. Qxe4 {-0.37/11 26s} Qc3 {+0.86/12
>23s} 28. Rf2 {-0.90/10 49s} Nf5 {+1.00/13 31s} 29. Nd3
>{-0.90/10 15s} Qxb3 {+1.15/13 30s} 30. Rc1 {-1.12/10 17s}
>Qxd5 {+1.25/14 53s} 31. Re1 {-1.74/11 28s} Qb3 {+1.62/11
>17s} 32. Rc1 {-1.82/10 23s} Re7 {+2.32/11 36s} 33. Rc6
>{-1.93/9 12s} Rf8 {+2.23/11 16s} 34. g4 {-2.27/10 25s} hxg4
>{+2.18/11 30s} 35. hxg4 {-2.27/10 13s} Nh4+ {+2.26/11 16s}
>36. Kg3 {-2.34/11 27s} Rxf2 {+2.13/12 16s} 37. Kxf2
>{-2.35/11 12s} Qb1 {+2.24/12 37s} 38. Kg3 {-1.75/10 14s} g5
>{+1.98/12 14s} 39. Rc1 {-2.35/10 11s} Qa2 {+2.39/13 18s}
>40. a4 {-2.50/11 29s} Ng6 {+2.30/13 21s} 41. Rf1 {-2.74/10
>25s} Qd2 {+2.79/13 33s} 42. Qf5 {-2.58/11 19s} Qe3+
>{+2.62/12 18s} 43. Kh2 {-2.76/11 7s} e4 {+2.87/12 20s}
>44. Qf6+ {-2.49/11 23s} Kh7 {+1.50/14 13s} 45. Ne5
>{-2.24/11 7s} Rxe5 {+1.52/14 12s} 46. Qf7+ {-2.33/11 4s}
>Kh6 {+1.45/16 20s} 47. Rf6 {-2.31/11 5s} Qf4+ {+1.57/15
>20s} 48. Rxf4 {-2.10/13 10s} gxf4 {+1.57/15 16s} 49. Kg2
>{-2.54/13 18s} e3 {+1.40/14 12s} 50. Kf1 {-2.39/12 6s} a5
>{+1.44/13 28s} 51. Ke2 {-2.60/12 7s} b5 {+1.68/13 10s}
>52. axb5 {-2.56/12 3s} Rxb5 {+1.70/13 14s} 53. Qf6
>{-2.67/11 5s} a4 {+1.77/13 14s} 54. Qa6 {-2.67/11 8s} Rd5
>{+2.35/13 13s} 55. Qc6 {-2.93/12 9s} Rd2+ {+2.50/13 13s}
>56. Ke1 {-2.94/13 7s} Kg5 {+2.87/12 12s} 57. Qxa4 {-7.12/12
>25s} f3 {+10.35/12 12s} 58. Qb3 {-10.30/12 10s} Nf4
>{+15.20/14 12s} 0-1
>
>[Event "25 Minutes/Game + 5 Seconds/Move"]
>[Site "Engine Match"]
>[Date "2005.08.19"]
>[Round "40"]
>[White "Spike 1.0 Mainz"]
>[Black "Shredder Classic 1.3"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "[D]bbqnnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BBQNNRKR w - -"]
>
>1. c4 {+0.10/12 29s} c5 {-0.16/12 1:12m} 2. b3 {+0.04/13
>46s} f6 {-0.16/12 2:03m} 3. Nc3 {+0.12/12 31s} b6 {+0.02/11
>1:21m} 4. Bb2 {+0.16/12 31s} e6 {-0.08/11 55s} 5. e3
>{+0.11/13 33s} d5 {-0.14/11 53s} 6. cxd5 {+0.22/13 39s}
>exd5 {-0.18/11 24s} 7. Nf3 {+0.24/12 30s} d4 {+0.18/12
>1:33m} 8. exd4 {+0.14/12 51s} Bxf3 {-0.19/11 1:23m} 9. gxf3
>{+0.27/13 44s} Ne6 {-0.31/11 50s} 10. Bf5 {+0.25/13 36s}
>Nd6 {+0.05/11 29s} 11. Bxe6+ {+0.29/13 43s} Qxe6 {-0.05/13
>39s} 12. Re1 {+0.18/13 42s} Qf5 {-0.19/12 45s} 13. dxc5
>{+0.17/13 36s} Qg5+ {-0.32/11 39s} 14. Kf1 {+0.63/5 0s}
>Qxc5 {-0.42/12 1:11m} 15. Rg1 {+0.49/11 36s} Qh5 {-0.62/10
>48s} 16. Ne4 {+0.72/12 1:01m} Qb5+ {-0.92/10 43s} 17. Kg2
>{+1.04/12 40s} Kf7 {-1.33/10 47s} 18. Ng3 {+1.02/11 27s}
>Rc8 {-0.70/11 39s} 19. Qb1 {+0.85/11 25s} Rhd8 {-0.73/11
>53s} 20. Bc3 {+0.72/11 1:14m} g6 {-0.49/10 31s} 21. Re3
>{+1.00/11 27s} Qg5 {-0.19/10 50s} 22. h4 {+1.26/11 25s} Qd5
>{-0.48/10 30s} 23. Rge1 {+1.04/11 25s} Re8 {-0.71/10 24s}
>24. h5 {+1.01/11 34s} Rxe3 {-0.80/10 31s} 25. hxg6+
>{+1.12/12 26s} hxg6 {-0.96/11 12s} 26. Rxe3 {+1.07/14 37s}
>Re8 {-1.34/11 59s} 27. Qh1 {+1.39/12 24s} Kg7 {-1.22/10 9s}
>28. Qh3 {+1.43/12 26s} Bc7 {-1.43/10 26s} 29. Qg4 {+1.39/11
>27s} Rxe3 {-1.58/11 20s} 30. Qd7+ {+1.33/13 26s} Qf7
>{-1.76/14 24s} 31. Qxf7+ {+1.40/14 19s} Kxf7 {-1.63/12 2s}
>32. fxe3 {+1.38/15 25s} a5 {-1.80/14 25s} 33. Ne2 {+1.38/15
>27s} b5 {-1.81/13 19s} 34. b4 {+1.52/15 18s} a4 {-1.83/14
>20s} 35. Bd4 {+1.65/15 18s} Nc4 {-1.83/13 11s} 36. d3
>{+1.72/16 24s} Na3 {-1.88/14 13s} 37. Bc5 {+1.65/16 27s}
>Nb1 {-1.95/15 22s} 38. f4 {+1.76/16 26s} Bd8 {-2.10/15 21s}
>39. e4 {+1.84/15 25s} Bc7 {-2.07/14 11s} 40. Kf2 {+1.93/15
>19s} Ke8 {-2.06/13 13s} 41. Ke1 {+1.98/16 30s} g5 {-4.54/17
>36s} 42. fxg5 {+2.33/16 16s} fxg5 {-4.65/17 11s} 43. Kd1
>{+4.85/17 22s} Be5 {-5.01/17 15s} 44. Kc2 {+5.30/16 15s}
>Na3+ {-5.08/17 9s} 45. Kc1 {+5.41/17 21s} 1-0
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