Author: gerold daniels
Date: 18:29:57 08/22/05
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On August 22, 2005 at 21:20:50, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 22, 2005 at 21:09:19, gerold daniels wrote: > >>On August 22, 2005 at 18:10:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2005 at 16:57:00, Engin Üstün wrote: >>> >>>>On August 22, 2005 at 16:20:32, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:51:22, Engin Üstün wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:31:29, Thomas Mayer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Engin, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:18:43, Engin Üstün wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 11:57:33, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Is it the largest margin (by percentage of points) ever for a WCCC or WMCCC >>>>>>>>>event? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>zappa was played on 2 cpu dual core, Fruit play only on 1 cpu, clearly is Fruit >>>>>>>>the Campion for me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>very interesting is a match on same hardware Zappa vs Fruit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>so well, then I chose the machin Anthony did use... see ! Nothing is changed, >>>>>>>because Fruit so far just can use the single... so is Anthony to blaim because >>>>>>>he made his program MP ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just a comparison for those which support the same hardware idea: now what to do >>>>>>>if one of those programs does not support opening book ? Must now everyone >>>>>>>disable opening books ? Or how about pondering, tablebases etc. ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Of course it will be interesting to see them fighting against each other with >>>>>>>single machines, but this was a world championship, everyone should bring the >>>>>>>best he can. The 2 x 2 *2.2 Ghz wouldn't have helped Fruit, in fact it would >>>>>>>have been even a bit slower on it, because each single processor has only 2.2 >>>>>>>GHz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Anyway, Fruits performance was of course outstanding. Beaten several of those >>>>>>>hardware monsters and end up as clear 2nd. But don't lower the achievements of >>>>>>>Anthony, Zappa is without any doubt the deserved champ of that tournament. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Greets, Thomas >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Thomas, >>>>>>you are right but, i mean only who have the money for very fast mashines is >>>>>>clear better then other who can not spend so much for fast hardware? >>>>>> >>>>>>that is a question about a reach and poor programmers how engine is the best >>>>>>one. >>>>>> >>>>>>clearly is better a tournament with all engines can MP ond same MP 4 core >>>>>>mashines, with books, ponder and tablebases. >>>>>>or all engines playing on same 1 cpu hardware with book, ponder and tablebases. >>>>>> >>>>>>compare hydra 16 core mashine vs fruit 1 core mashine is not fairly. >>>>>> >>>>>>that is also near if one engine have 4 GB hashtables and the other one have only >>>>>>16 MB hash. >>>>> >>>>>For WCCC, the intent is cleary the strongest chess system that can be built at >>>>>any cost (in the past, what was then supercomputers were entered). >>>> >>>>hmmm... are you mean that on olympic games is doping allowed for high >>>>performance ? >>> >>>No, he means that the WCCC is an event where _anyone_ can compete. Not college >>>atheletics. Not high-school only. But anyone. Just like the NHRA's "Top Fuel >>>Dragsters". As many motors as you want, supercharged any way you want, on any >>>fuel you want. >>> >>>This is the "unlimited event" of computer chess. >> >>I might add. Clearly the strongest program will win. :) > > >No, the "thing" that plays the best chess for the 11 rounds of this event... > >:) True :)
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