Author: Lawrence S. Tamarkin
Date: 08:38:15 02/25/99
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I think it is importantant to understand a coulple of things when it comes to discussing someone nuts like Fischer. 1.You don't need to be a mental health proffesional to know when someone is mentally ill. If they are ranting & raving about how they would like to see bad things done to you or your kind, you can be pretty sure that they are mentally ill (Nuts for the layman). Further, even if you are wrong about them being, 'officially, clinically mentally ill', it is certainly a realatively gentel thing for you to say about them, compared to what they are saying about you. Further, when it is a famous personality that is mentally ill, (or whatever you prever to call it), that is spouting off about you, and/or your kind, it is much more harmful what they are doing, then your reaction of calling them the above. Because they are unfortunately getting noticed by the media, and the greater masses of people are getting to hear what they have to say, rather then anything you have to say. That's why it is vitaly important for many people to come forward to deal with these horrid rantings of this mentally ill person (or agian whatever you prefer to call him), so that there is some widely heard counteraction to this ranting. Whatever this mentally ill person says then can (hopefully), be somewhat ballanced by the public's ultimately more relistic understanding. (And at least they have both sides). 2. I dissagree about your claiming not to be looking for flames when it comes to this subject, or maybe its just me, but when it comes to a racist meglomaniac taking a stand agianst me, my race (or even any race of people), I have to be more than just an objective bystander. I must take a stand and voice my displeasure, sadness, and contempt for such individuals existing in our society. I think the quote is something like, 'Those that do not study history, are condemed to repeat it' Well when it comes to Madman spouting about what they would like to see happen to the Jews (or fill in the blank), I take a stand, and have to have an opinion, not be impartial, and try to ad my own vioce how much I am against nut-cases like Fischer. I really am not looking to 'abuse you', but merely by posting that "I submit no opinion on the issues re Fischer here.", in my opinion is a contrast in terms; This has become a thread about ones stand against Fischer's behavior in the media, and against Anti-Semitism in particuler. So just by posting you are taking a stand arent you? mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict! On February 25, 1999 at 00:44:21, Oliver Y. wrote: >Why do we have psychiatrists, if anyone can diagnose/pronounce someone they have >never met to be mentally ill? Of what value is the neophyte's opinion? > >I realize the implied argument is difficult to defend [based on the comments I >have read], but we don't want to do the easy things now, do we? > >If I demonstrated to you carefully why I thought Fischer is certainly not >mentally ill, I would be in for plenty of abuse. > >Here are some clues. > >The conventional definition of mental illness is incomplete, operational, >subject to change with the times, applicable only to nonoutliers. > >Examine the conventional interpretation of belief systems affected by racism and >religious beliefs, and you will understand better the above sentence. > >Truth and language, as administered by judges and psychiatry [religion played a >larger role in the past] is used to maintain power and order. This is not an >original idea, BTW. > >Sorry about the awkward style, I am as always working from first principles. > >Concept: Incompleteness. > >Concept: Frame of Reference. > >So there are no flames. I submit no opinion on the issues re Fischer here.
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