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Subject: Re: Bobby Fischer latest Interviews must all U.S. WorldChampions go mad?

Author: Oliver Y.

Date: 02:19:46 02/26/99

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Hi Larry, here are three of your quotes below.  Your post was so jammed packed
that it takes some time and effort to reply...

1. Repeatedly, Fischer is depicted as someone who is (and has become),
completely mistrustful of business people, and ...

2. has little respect for authority, other then his own.


3. What makes it even more funny is that Fischer hates the (supposedly), Jew
dominated American Chess Foundation, which was bending over backwards to help SK
(She is NOT Jewish, to go to the Olympiads, and qualified for some US Women's
events that would have been iffy otherwise, and was ready to help Fischer too.
Does this not tell us something about how Fischer deals with reality & money?


Here's my reply.

Re:

1.  So why shouldn't he be mistrustful of others?  Look at the evidence.
Look at the Russian machine he fought.  Look at what they are doing today in
Russia, 4 days ago, they convicted a fellow named Nitikin on NO EVIDENCE.  His
crime?  Squealing about the dangerous disposal of nuclear waste!  This is on the
major news feeds.  I'm not attempting an inference here.  In any event, can you
realize that a]chess was the only thing that mattered to Fischer; and b] the
chess world was manipulated by the Russians in those days, and even if it
wasn't, can you understand what a lone Fischer would have felt/thought?  These
are formative experiences that dispose him to defend his current beliefs.

How can you justify what has happened to Fischer lately? [not that you have]
See #3.

Being mistrustful in and of itself does not constitute mental illness.

No, I'm not blind to what is going on recently, I simply am not qualified to
judge anyone, less so a world champion.  See #3.

The point will become clearer in #3.

2.  Give Fischer one good reason why he should respect any authority other than
his own.  Don't prevaricate, just give one reason.  One.

You and I are probably inclined to respect authority, more or less.  We have
relatively ordinary abilities compared to Fischer.  This is not said to justify
any special privileges, rather, it is to point out that his frame of reference
creates different perceptions of reality.  Maybe that's why we have such
colorful champions.

The psychological term would be that he's field independent.  Extremely so.
That's just a trait, not a disorder.

3. Let's assume for argument's sake that you are correct.  Does that make
Fischer mad?  No.  It makes him incorrect.  False attribution.

The western civilization is founded on delusion.  Do you hear anyone complaining
about the murder and theft involved in procuring the land where you live?  Do
you not read any history?  Can you guess where any of the following
inventions/discoveries originated?  I would guess most people could guess zero
of the following correctly:

mechanical clock
distillation of sex hormones
the first vaccine
hang gliding
the discovery of two types of diabetes
the hexagonal structure of the snowflake
golf

So, is western society mad? delusional?  Who writes history?

My discussion is not about Fischer so much as it is about the right and
usefulness of calling others mad, or advocating a "45-calibre hollow point as
therapy" for Fischer, as R. Wilkins did two weeks ago.



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