Author: Peter Berger
Date: 15:22:32 09/09/05
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On September 09, 2005 at 17:50:58, Mig Greengard wrote: >I'm not a ChessBase employee, loyal or otherwise. > >ChessBase not being attacked? I guess you are new to these boards. You should >look through the archives for the comments about ChessBase's lack of coverage of >the WCCC. Saying I'm defending them or making excuses presupposes there is >something for them to be ashamed of or worried about. That's correct I assume, you have a point here, *bows*. It just was a bit strange to mention at your own site, in an unrelated way. Of course the lack of ChessBase coverage of WCCC 2005 was funny *and* "political". Let's face it: they reported on the Icelandic human championship that took place next door and even had the amazing number of one GMs taking part, in at least three articles. > >I said an 11-round tournament was no more definitive than human chess. But since >playing dozens and hundreds of games between computers is both practical and >common, unlike with humans, yes, there is a higher standard for agreeing on >legitimacy of strength. Or would you be happy if the computer rating list >required just a dozen games? Running around and shouting the king is dead when >Shredder and Junior don't win is just as sensible as declaring Arkady Naiditsch >world champion because he won Dortmund. It was a great result, a deserved win, >and should be praised and enjoyed for what it is. It's also symbolic to a >certain degree, mostly because Fruit is open source. Strong new engines have >almost always been amateur. In *my* personal ( definitely completely irrelevant) opinion, the numerous basement events have little predictive power when it is about WCCCs. This is how the worldchampion put it, nicely I might add: "Lastly, my personal opinion is: ultimately only tournaments count. At a tournament you show up with your best. Your special settings. Your best tournament lines. Your best hardware. You work extra hard to improve the engine for a month prior. This is why winning vs Shredder at the World Champs counts more to me than beating it on some random guys computer 1000 times."
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