Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 06:55:06 09/13/05
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On September 12, 2005 at 12:14:23, Roger Brown wrote: >>LOL Nice answer! >>I just wonder why there is so much aggression against Chessbase? What wrong have >>they done? Other than making a very good package of interface, online chess and >>great engines like Fritz, Shredder, Junior etc. ? > > > > >Hello Torstein, > >I disagree, in fact there seems to be quite a strong pro chessbase sentiment in >CCC, particularly in the light of recent discussions here. As a long reader of CCC, I know that at least some people feel very strongly against CB. > >For my part I own several of their products (all the above you listed) so I have >no problem with them *BUT* there seems to be this mood that all engines must be >UCI compatible so as to be used in the chessbase gui otherwise the engine is >somehow deficient. In an ideal world every engine would run in every GUI. "Old" as I am, I remember a time when engines came in their own exclusive GUI. Hiarcs, Fritz, Rebel and most other chessprograms came as a complete package. I had not even heard about the consept of a separate engine and user interface. You simply bought a chess program. Period. > >I have a problem with that attitude because the chessbase engines are useable >only in their gui. The attitude seems to be if you cannot be used in the >chessbase gui then you are no good. That is of course not a smart attitude, but as CB is market leader, adn in my view has the most pleasant GUI, it is great feature if they are UCI. > >The chessbase gui is a professionally done gui etc. but that attitude stifles >progress by assuming that the chessbase gui is *IT*. > >I wonder what the feeling would be if tomorrow the chessbase line of engines >could be used outside of the chessbase gui? Wow..... Agree, why cant they all be UCI! :-) Torstein > >:-) > > > >>Regarding Fritz 9, I am one of the "stupid" custommers who will buy it. > > > > >It is your money. You earned it, you spend it. No-one can say anything about >the choices you make... > > > > If it >>can comment upon my games in, a for me more understandable form, it actually >>means more than engine strength! > > > >The point! That is why I find the it-must-work-in-the-chessbase-gui lobby a bit >hard to understand. There are other features that a user pays for apart from >engine strength which most basement tournaments cannot test because the users >are unwilling/unable to run a statistically significant number of games at a >meaningful timecontrol. > >Those desirable features may be present in another gui. Why stifle development? > > > And by the way, based on experience, I would >>not count on Fritz 9 beeing a weak engine. All odd numbered versions have been >>great so far! :-) > > > >Fritz is not a weak engine. Fritz 5.32 is a monster that can crush about 99.99% >of chessplayers on decent hardware. > > >Later
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