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Subject: Ooops! Re: Kc2 is a winning move.

Author: Steffen Jakob

Date: 01:04:08 03/05/99

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On March 05, 1999 at 03:48:47, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:

>On March 05, 1999 at 03:18:25, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>
>>On March 05, 1999 at 02:51:09, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On March 05, 1999 at 01:04:23, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 04, 1999 at 09:03:23, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I added the "bm" attributes to the endgame test collection which Jouni posted.
>>>>
>>>>Jouni, position #1 is a draw. Kc2 doesn´t win. I also noticed that other
>>>>positions have more than one solution.
>>>>
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>Steffen.
>>>
>>>This is the relevant position
>>>5k2/8/8/8/8/2P5/8/3K4 w - - 0 1
>>>Kc2 is winning.
>>>For example 1.Kc2 Ke7 2.Kb3 Kd6 3.Kb4 Kc6 4.Kc4
>>>
>>>I think that tablebases can tell in how many moves it is a mate.
>>
>>Bob confirmed that it is a tablebase draw. The key squares of the pawn c3 are
>>b5,c5,d5.
>
>The position that Jouni and Uri gave is a win -- mate in 22.
>
>Maybe you got the FEN wrong in your file, Steffen?

Oooops, yes, it was a copy-paste bug!
I had

k2/8/8/8/8/2P5/8/3K4 w

instead of

5k2/8/8/8/8/2P5/8/3K4 w

I am sorry!

Now Hossa sees the win:


depth  value    time    nodes  pv
    1    142    0.02        2  c4
    2    132    0.02       14  c4 f8e7
    3    164    0.02       42  c4 f8e7 c5
    4    164    0.02      108  c4 f8e7 c5
    5    170    0.02      278  c4 f8e7 c5 e7e6 d1e2
    6    170    0.02      567  c4 f8e7 c5 e7e6 d1e2
    7    147    0.03     1512  c4 f8e7 d1e2 e7d6 e2e3 d6c5 e3d3
    7    150    0.04     2123  d1e2 f8e7 e2e3 e7d6 e3d4 d6c6 c4
    8    150    0.04     2794  d1e2 f8e7 e2e3 e7d6 e3d4 d6c6 c4
    9    181    0.06     5218  d1e2 f8e7 e2e3 e7d7 e3d4 d7d6 c4 d6e6
                               c5
   10    181    0.12     7796  d1e2 f8e7 e2e3 e7d7 e3d4 d7d6 c4 d6e6
                               c5
   11    184    0.18    12455  d1e2 f8e7 e2e3 e7d7 e3d4 d7d6 c4 d6c6
                               c5 c6d7
   12    184    0.24    17221  d1e2 f8e7 e2e3 e7d7 e3d4 d7d6 c4 d6c6
                               c5 c6d7 d4e5
   13    185    0.35    28558  d1e2 f8e7 e2d3 e7d7 d3c4 d7d6 c4b5 d6d5
                               c4 d5d6 c5 d6c7 c6 c7d6 b5b6
   13    190    0.42    34053  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d6 b3c4 d6c6
   14    190    0.48    40436  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d6 b3c4 d6c6 c4d4 c6d6
   15    190    0.57    50445  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d6 b3c4 d6c6 c4d4 c6d6
   16    190    0.68    63859  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d6 b3c4 d6c6 c4d4 c6d6
                               c4 d6c6 c5 c6d7 d4d5 d7e7 c6
   17    198    1.04   112582  d1c2 f8e7 c2d3 e7d7 d3d4 d7d6 c4 d6c6
                               c5 c6c7 d4d5 c7d7 c6 d7e7 d5e5 e7e8
                               e5d5
   18    201    1.18   128243  d1c2 f8e7 c2d3 e7d7 d3d4 d7d6 c4 d6c6
                               c5 c6c7 d4d5 c7d7 c6 d7e7 d5e5 e7e8
                               e5d6 e8d8 c7
   19    201    1.54   179500  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6d5
                               c4 d5d6 c5 d6c7 c6 c7c8 b5c5 c8c7
   20    201    1.74   209134  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5d5 d7c7 c4 c7d7 c5 d7c7
                               c6
   21    201    1.87   227469  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5d5 d7c7 c4 c7d7 c5 d7c7
                               c6 c7d8 d5d6 d8c8 c7
!  23   1460    2.62   351242  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8e7 c6 e7f6 b7b8
!  24   5944    3.25   453235  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d5
                               c7c8Q
   25   5944    3.42   479439  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d5
                               c7c8Q
   26   5946    3.87   553519  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 b7b6
   27   5946    4.07   584250  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 b7c7
   28   5948     4.6   674593  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 b7c7 d5e5 c7c6
   29   5950    5.29   791243  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8f5 d5d4 b7c6 d4c4 f5e5
   30   5950    5.78   864464  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8f5 d5d4 f5f4 d4d5 b7b6 d5e6
                               b6c5
   31   5952    7.48  1101056  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8f5 d5d4 b7c6 d4c4 f5e5 c4d3
                               c6d5
   32   5954   11.01  1622670  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8f5 d5d4 f5f4 d4d5 b7b6 d5e6
                               b6c5 e6e7 c5d5
   33   5954   12.56  1862375  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8f5 d5d4 f5f4 d4d5 b7b6 d5e6
                               b6c5 e6e7 c5d5
   34   5964   24.48  3571209  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8g4 d5c5 g4e4 c5d6 b7c8 d6c5
                               c8c7
   35   5964   27.05  3968972  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d6
                               c7c8Q d6d5 c8f5 d5d4 f5f4 d4d5 f4e3 d5d6
                               e3d4 d6e6 d4e4 e6d6 b7c8
   36   5972   51.99  7887594  d1c2 f8e7 c2b3 e7d7 b3b4 d7d6 b4b5 d6c7
                               b5c5 c7d7 c5b6 d7d6 c4 d6d7 c5 d7c8
                               b6c6 c8d8 c6b7 d8d7 c6 d7e6 c7 e6d5
                               c7c8Q d5e4 c8g4 e4e3 g4g3 e3e4 b7c6 e4d4
                               g3f4 d4d3 f4f3 d3d4 f3e2 d4c3 e2e3

Computed move :   d1c2


Steffen.



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