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Subject: Re: question about fruit future plans

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:39:52 09/27/05

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On September 27, 2005 at 12:29:32, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On September 27, 2005 at 11:31:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 27, 2005 at 11:21:19, Roger Brown wrote:
>>
>>>On September 27, 2005 at 09:28:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>Fabien mentioned that Fruit has search bugs(for example it cannot solve Fine70
>>>>in a short time).
>>>>
>>>>It can be productive if the fruit team report when they plan to fix the bugs.
>>>>I see no report on it in future plans of fruit and I see no report if they plan
>>>>to make it as free update or no(tablebase support is mentioned as free update).
>>>>
>>>>fixing bugs is of course included in increasing laying strength but I guess that
>>>>the same is also for tablebase support.
>>>>
>>>>It can be nice if the fruit team report about plans about fixing bugs and about
>>>>implementing known ideas(for example partial extensions or limiting extensions
>>>>because extending every single reply and every check by a single ply does not
>>>>make sense).
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello Uri,
>>>
>>>Of course this is probably an exercise in futility but I suppose you obtained a
>>>similar timetable from the makers of other commercial programs when they plan to
>>>fix bugs in their offerings.
>>
>>No
>>
>>Unfortunately Amir Ban does not want to reply the question if he is going to fix
>>bugs.
>>
>>>
>>>It is generally good business sense to offer bug fixes as free upgrades *BUT* to
>>>require it as part of the sales agreement is.....well....odd.
>>
>>I did not talk about sales agreement.
>>Note that I already ordered fruit and Fabien originally mentioned the bugs
>>so I ask about something that was already mentioned.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>Hi Uri,
>
>I have played over one thousand games with a beta of the new Fruit and haven't
>seen any bugs.  As far as I am concerned, as a user who runs Fruit under three
>GUI's for the sake of testing, of course, Fruit has NO bugs.

Not from fabien point of view.

He already said that fruit2.1 has search bugs that he did not fix.

Read the readme of fruit2.1 that says that Fruit2.1 has search bugs.
He even suggested programmers to fix one of his bugs and he is also going to fix
one of their bugs.

Later when people mention the fact that fruit does not solve fine70 in a short
time then Fabien admitted that it is one of fruit's bugs because fine70 is
solved by every program that use hash for pruning in correct way(note that I
admit that Movei is not one of them).

Uri



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