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Subject: Re: u2600 position comments

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 01:50:13 03/07/99

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On March 02, 1999 at 17:25:08, Will Singleton wrote:

>   5R2/8/8/4rp2/3r4/5k2/2B1p2P/2K1R3 w - -
>   White to move and draw.
>
>Well, that one turned out to be more interesting than I anticipated.  We found
>that a couple of programs could see the draw w/o tablebases (Ferret, and perhaps
>Lambchop), and Crafty gave the tablebase draw result.  Gives the rest of us
>something to think about.
>
>Aside from that, there was pretty much agreement on Rxf5.  One program chose
>Bxf5 with a larger negative score than the concensus on Rxf5.  That might bear
>looking into.
>
>Zchess was the only one not to consider Rg8.  The passed pawns were scored so
>highly that the idea of bringing the rooks down to defend wasn't even an option.
>
>And for some reason, it took my program a ton of nodes to resolve the fail-low,
>and then a ton more to find the better move.  Something for me to worry about.
>(Maybe time to put in some endgame knowledge, but I think there's something else
>going on.)
>
>Will

How are you trying to resolve the fail-low at the PV?  Have you tried completely
restarting the search (with the TT intact! :)  My understanding is that this is
the preferred method nowadays... but certainly, YMMV.

I am interested to hear from those who do restart on PV fail-lows, and those who
tried it but found it lacking.

Dave Gomboc



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