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Subject: Re: Nice Talk with Karpov After Boring Discourses about Karpov and Else.

Author: gerold daniels

Date: 10:46:22 10/05/05

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On October 05, 2005 at 13:01:15, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>The talk with Anatoly, whom I met some years ago in a glamorous simul of him
>against gov. authorities, chilean fide masters, writers like me and so on, was
>celebrated in the middle of a cocktail after the end of the half a dozen boring
>discourses pronnounced with ocassion of the official launching, in Chile, of a
>Chess Foundation sponsored by a man of fortune, Daniel Yarur, himself a strong
>player and a very generous, kind man, around whom orbits dozens of petitioners
>of every caliber. He and his lovely daughter -one of the pretties 20 years old
>ladies I have ever seen; yesterday I felt older than ever- are the main CEO's of
>this new organization that pretends to give a new push to a somewhat languishing
>chess. Here in my country, as I guess happens elsewhere, chess players more and
>more prefer to play trought Internet and less and less to share the social and
>communal aspect of chess as it is experienced in clubs.
>Well, discourses over and some drinks already swallowed to clear the throath, I
>found Karpov, as ever he seem to be, sheerful, smiling, with a drink in his hand
>and opened to any sort of demands, photos, talk, etc.
>BTW, Karpov does not speak spanish, but can understand a good shunk of it, so he
>laughed a lot when, during the discourses openning, IM Rene Letelier, a 90 years
>old man still capable of kicking butts any day, talked about some funny
>anecdotes of his long career as chess player. This was the only interesting part
>of the discourse phase of the game.  Letelier is a very talented man with an
>uncredible sense of humor, probably the best and most fine part of his sharp
>intelligence. As I listened his words from the podium and later, talking
>privately with him -we are acquatainces since long: for a time I was a chess
>student with him, but in that he failed miserably- I had the moving and deep,
>sure impression, that it was going to be the last time to see him alive.
>Now, lets us return to Karpov and his words.
>First, to say it straight, Karpov has a somewhat disdainful vision of the
>"computer chess" world. He does not know a bit and he care less about the who is
>who of it. He does not know nothing about Fruit or Zappa or any of the other
>current new, strong programs. He said to me, always smiling:
>- All that is a realm of toys. Yes, those things play strong in blitz, but
>that's all... I have not too much relation with such things even if my son is
>very engaged in programming, as you know....
>-But Mr Karpov -I replied- some of those toys can win long games to seasoned
>masters and even GM's..
>-Yeah -he said- , some can do it here and there, but not on a regular base.
>Besides I will tell you something that it is never said: It is very difficult
>for a GM to play seriously with those contrivances, even if money is on the
>stake. You can try, but to not avail. Your deeper mind say to you that you are
>facing a toy and then you cannot put all of yourself in front of the board.
>-Nevertheless, Mr karpov, you can put your strenght when playing simuls with
>weaks human player, weaker players than any current program.
>-Well, no. And that's the problem...When you play amateurs, you again cannot
>force yourself to play really serious, but at the same time those players cannot
>take advantage of your shallow attitude. They, most of them, are defeated before
>the game begins. They play below his already low levels because they are facing
>a GM. And in any case you are helped by your experience. Your hands play for
>you. But a computer or a program is not impressed at all and, even if it is weak
>from the point of view of a GM, it still will play at his best, it will squeeze
>the best of his paltry understanding of the game and then it can happens that it
>can win you, the master, on the ground of sheer tactics. It happens all the
>time.
>- Some friends of mine in CCC want to know if you want to be a champion again...
>-(Smiling) Well, as you know after listening what I said  before here, IF you
>listened to me, I am now engaged in another endeavours. I am working with many
>organizations and even goverments to bring the game to the schools -in Chile it
>will be part of the curriculum of every school, perhaps soon- , push young
>people to the board and in doing so I have no time and probably no energy left
>for the hard path that a would-be champion must run. I have been champion for 18
>years, that's enough to fulfill the life of several players, so I am satisfied
>with that and now my business is this, to promote, to support, to be part of
>organizations like this -he is part of the Directory of the Fundation- and so,
>no, no, I have no in mind, at least not in this very moment, the idea to fight
>again for the championship.
>-Another friend want to know what do you think of master Torres, about his
>style.
>-Oh, yes, I remember him very well, An imaginative player, one of his kind.
>Chess could not be such an interesting afair as it is without this class of
>players that goes beyond technicalities and theory.
>-Last question, Anatoly. Why you said to me "If I have listened to you"?
>-Ah, because I saw you just looking this girl Maria José, at my left, the
>daughter of Daniel. I myself was hardly tempted to do the same all the time...
>
>And he laughed....
>
>Fernando
>
>(Note: by express demand of Mr. Karpov assistant, this material, specifically
>his opinions, CANNOT be used, published, edited, cited or whatever out of this
>place)
>
>If you want to see photos of Karpov with your truly and with old, loved IM Rene
>Letelier, then go to:
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cpaa2@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=b709&.src=ph
>&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cpaa2@sbcglobal.net
>/my_photos
>
>Photos get larger if clicking them
>
>Courtesy of Mr Steve Blincoe.

Thanks Fernando and Steve. Nice photos.

Gerold.



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