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Subject: Re: As i suspected, a desperate try at something better than Fruit 2.2

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 10:56:46 10/12/05

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On October 12, 2005 at 13:16:11, gerold daniels wrote:

>On October 12, 2005 at 11:46:47, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On October 12, 2005 at 09:29:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 12, 2005 at 09:01:46, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 12, 2005 at 08:58:09, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 12, 2005 at 08:14:16, robert flesher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It also lost against default 14-6, however I will give it a 100 game match to
>>>>>>make sure. Although it seems that this version is even more aggressive compared
>>>>>>to the defaul and this is exactly what Fruit 2.2 is exploiting.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe the problem is one computer only.
>>>>>
>>>>>Using 2 computers after 42 games CE 9g is leading 21.5 to 20.5 (at 15 minuts
>>>>>each on 2 AMD 3000+ with 256Mega RAM) so I do not understand your results.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sandro
>>>>
>>>>Leading against Shredder 9...I do not test against Fruit 2.2 because I do not
>>>>own it due to the hated protection used.
>>>>
>>>>Some people reported a clear win against Fruit 2.2 so maybe it is a matter of
>>>>openings...
>>>>
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>Note that initially I thought that the copy protection of fruit is a good idea
>>>but I changed my mind about it after reading responses of people.
>>
>>I know, but I have been in the computer/software enough to guess the
>>outcome...so this is not surprise to me.
>>
>>>
>>>It is possible that even piracy without that copy protection may be productive
>>>for Fabien.
>>>
>>>Explanation:
>>>
>>>option 1:copy protection similiar to shredder
>>>A buy the program and share the program with B,C,D,E when everybody payed only
>>>1/5 of the price.
>>>
>>>Fabien earns 35$
>>>A,B,C,D,E pay 7$
>>
>>I think the price is not a problem, but the idea to expect everything for free
>>is. This is why I am against free software (for chess) because people will get
>>used to the idea of getting software for free.
>>I think the programmers need to get money also as a return for their work.
>>The problem in my case is that even if I accept this I am willing to buy
>>software that comply to my needs. One of them is the freedom to deinstall the
>>software anytime I want and install it anytime I want. This kind of protection
>>does not comply to it even if the distributor may be so kind to send me extra
>>protections.
>>
>Free chess programs makes chess more popular so more people will buy. If it
>wasn't for crafty and other free programs a lot of people would not play or buy
>any chess related products. Do you use any free software yourself. :)

Hi Gerold,

I personally have no problems with free chess programs, but some people believe
this is the only way to use software as they all should be free and I do not
agree.

I believe there is a need of a lot of work to reach very high levels and
therefore one should work a lot on them and need to get money to do it.

Many people do not agree on this as they think free software is a must...many of
these people do not buy programs and do use copy of commercial programs received
from friends etc...

Free programs increase this believe.

Sandro

>
>Gerold.
>>>
>>>option 2:copy protection based on hardwate
>>>
>>>A does not buy fruit because it is too expensive and same for B,C,D,E
>>>Fabien earns nothing.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Sandro



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