Author: Günther Simon
Date: 03:57:12 10/14/05
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On October 14, 2005 at 06:12:59, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote: >On October 13, 2005 at 04:49:11, Günther Simon wrote: > >>The problem is you did not the whole game, because if Black lost here >>it did a blunder move much later. I hope though you won't tell us it >>lost on time? >> >>Guenther > >Here is the full game: > >[Event "jogo.cex.org rated BLITZ"] >[Site "jogo.cex.org Brazil"] >[Date "2005.10.12"] >[Time "12:17:04"] >[Round "-"] >[White "WinboardEngine"] >[Black "chessmaster"] >[WhiteElo "2224"] >[BlackElo "2224"] >[TimeControl "180+0"] >[Mode "ICS"] >[Result "1-0"] > >1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd3 a6 8. >O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 Qc7 10. Kb1 Be7 11. Nb3 O-O-O 12. Be2 Kb8 13. Rhf1 Ka8 14. >Bh4 d5 15. e5 Ng8 16. Bf2 g5 17. Na4 gxf4 18. Bb6 Qxe5 19. Bxd8 Bxd8 20. >Nac5 Bf6 21. c3 Be8 22. Qf3 Bg5 23. Rde1 Qg7 24. Na4 Nge7 25. Nb6+ Kb8 26. >Rg1 Nf5 27. Qf2 Qh6 28. c4 Ne3 29. a3 Ne5 30. g3 dxc4 31. Na5 c3 32. Ka2 c2 >33. Rh1 Bd8 34. Nac4 N5xc4 35. Nxc4 Bc7 36. Bf3 Ba4 37. Nxe3 fxe3 38. Qxe3 >Qxe3 39. Rxe3 Rd8 40. b3 Bb5 41. a4 Bb6 42. Rc3 Bd3 43. Rc1 f5 44. Bg2 Be3 >45. R1xc2 Bxc2 46. Rxc2 e5 47. Ka3 a5 48. Re2 Bc5+ 49. Kb2 Bd4+ 50. Kc2 Kc7 >51. Re1 Rd6 52. Bh3 Rc6+ 53. Kd1 Rf6 54. Rf1 f4 55. Bg2 Rh6 56. Rh1 Rb6 57. >Kc2 Be3 58. gxf4 exf4 59. h4 Re6 60. h5 Bc5 61. Kd3 Re3+ 62. Kc4 Bb4 63. >Rh3 Re2 64. Bd5 Kb6 65. Rd3 Re7 66. Bf3 Kc7 67. Kd5 Bd2 68. Rd4 Be3 69. >Rc4+ Kb6 70. b4 Rg7 71. Ke5 Rg3 72. Ke4 axb4 73. Rxb4+ Ka6 74. Be2+ Ka7 >75. Rb5 Rg7 76. a5 Rg2 77. Bc4 Rc2 78. Be6 Ka6 79. Rf5 Rc6 80. Re5 Rc7 81. >Rf5 Re7 82. Re5 Rg7 83. Rf5 Rc7 84. Re5 h6 85. Bd5 Kxa5 86. Bxb7+ Kb4 87. >Bd5 Rc8 88. Re6 Rh8 89. Rc6 Ka5 90. Re6 Rh7 91. Rc6 Kb5 92. Kf3 Rh8 93. >Kg4 Rd8 94. Bf3 Rg8+ 95. Rg6 Rh8 96. Rc6 Kb4 97. Bd5 Ka5 98. Kf3 Ka4 99. >Kg4 Kb4 100. Rc4+ Ka5 101. Rc6 Rh7 102. Be4 Kb5 103. Bd5 Rd7 104. Be4 Re7 >105. Bf3 Rg7+ 106. Rg6 Rh7 107. Rc6 Kb4 108. Kf5 Rh8 109. Kg4 Kb3 110. >Bd5+ Ka3 111. Kf3 Kb2 112. Be4 Ka2 113. Bd5+ Ka3 114. Kg4 Rd8 115. Bf3 >Rg8+ 116. Rg6 Rh8 117. Rf6 Kb2 118. Rc6 Bd2 119. Rb6+ Kc3 120. Rc6+ Kd3 >121. Rd6+ Ke3 122. Re6+ Kd4 123. Rd6+ Ke3 124. Re6+ Kd3 125. Rd6+ Kc2 126. >Rc6+ Kb3 127. Bd1+ Kb4 128. Bf3 Rh7 129. Bg2 Rg7+ 130. Rg6 Re7 131. Rb6+ >Ka5 132. Rf6 Be3 133. Rc6 f3 134. Bxf3 Kb5 135. Rc8 Re5 136. Be2+ Kb6 137. >Bd3 Rg5+ 138. Kf3 Bc5 139. Bg6 Bd4 140. Ke4 Bf6 141. Bf7 Re5+ 142. Kf4 Ra5 >143. Re8 Kc7 144. Re6 Bg5+ 145. Ke4 Ra4+ 146. Kf5 Rf4+ 147. Kg6 Rf1 148. >Ra6 Bd2 149. Be6 Rg1+ 150. Kh7 Be3 151. Ra3 Bg5 152. Ra6 Bd2 153. Ra7+ Kc6 >154. Ra3 Kc5 155. Rd3 Bf4 156. Rd5+ Kc6 157. Bf7 Kb6 158. Rf5 Bd2 159. Be8 >Ra1 160. Kg7 Bg5 161. Rb5+ Kc7 162. Rd5 Be3 163. Rd7+ Kb6 164. Rd3 Bf4 >165. Bf7 Kc5 166. Rd5+ Kc6 167. Kh7 Re1 168. Rd4 Rf1 169. Bb3 Kc5 170. >Rd5+ Kb4 171. Rd3 Re1 172. Rd4+ Kxb3 173. Rxf4 Re6 174. Rg4 Kc3 175. Rg6 >Re5 176. Kxh6 Kd4 177. Rg5 Re7 178. Kg6 Re6+ 179. Kf7 Rb6 180. Rg4+ Ke5 >181. Rg5+ Kd4 182. Rf5 Ke4 183. Rf6 Rb7+ 184. Kg6 Rb3 185. h6 Rg3+ 186. >Kf7 Ke5 187. Rg6 Rd3 188. h7 Rd7+ 189. Kg8 Kf5 190. Rh6 Rd8+ 191. Kf7 Rh8 >192. Rh5+ Ke4 193. Kg7 Rb8 194. h8=Q Rxh8 195. Rxh8 Kd5 196. Rd8+ Ke5 197. >Kf7 Ke4 198. Kf6 Kf4 199. Rd4+ Ke3 200. Ke5 Kf3 201. Kf5 Ke3 202. Rd8 Kf3 >203. Re8 Kg3 204. Re3+ Kf2 205. Kf4 Kg2 206. Re2+ Kf1 207. Kf3 Kg1 208. >Ra2 Kh1 209. Kg3 Kg1 210. Ra1+ 1-0 Hi Aloisio Thanks for posting the game(player names are wrong though?)! Like expected the real blunder was very much later and surely was just because of the sudden death time control. In such a long game random moves often end a game(forced to play moves in fractions of a second, when no stable depth could be reached. I once once told depths <= 4 are considered to be unstable.) Also like expected, Fruit just avoided a 50 moves draw like an overwhelming majority of programs would do also with a pawn up here. 133 ...f3 was already Blacks 47th move during a 50 moves draw period, but of course it is still a dead draw... ...until 171 ...Re1?? immediately lost the game due to entering a lost R endgame. I don't have Toga versions installed here, but from the given position I could reproduce that Fruit 2.1 discards this move during depth 4! IMHO this means the move was played in less than 0.02 sec on your machine. Example from a slow P3 650 (you see it needed only 0.05 sec to discard ...Re1 forever) WB 4.27x + Fruit_21 128MB hash time in milli seconds! first column) 9714 <first : 1 +29 0 5 Ra1 9714 <first : 1 +30 0 39 Re1 9714 <first : 2 +14 0 168 Re1 Kg6 9714 <first : 2 +18 0 242 Rg1 Bd5 9724 <first : 3 +21 0 597 Rg1 Bd5 Kc5 9724 <first : 4 -114 1 2156 Rg1 Rd4+ Kxb3 Rxf4 Kc3 Kxh6 9764 <first : 4 +6 1 3231 Re1 Kg6 Kc5 Bd5 --------------------------------------------------------- 9764 <first : 4 +7 2 4243 Kc5 Kg6 Rg1+ Kf5 Bd6 9764 <first : 5 +7 3 7905 Kc5 Kg6 Rg1+ Kf5 Bd6 Ke4 Rg4+ Kf5 9804 <first : 6 +10 8 16464 Kc5 Kg6 Rg1+ Kf5 Bd6 Rd2 Rg5+ Ke6 9885 <first : 7 +8 16 39973 Kc5 Kg6 Rg1+ Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 Re1+ Kf5 Re2 10045 <first : 8 +8 33 98314 Kc5 Kg6 Rg1+ Kf5 Bd6 Ke6 Re1+ Kf5 Rf1+ Kg6 Bf4 10455 <first : 9 +7 73 239785 Kc5 Kg6 Bg5 Bd5 Rf6+ Kg7 Rd6 Be4 Rxd3 Bxd3 Bf4 11196 <first : 10 +6 147 492718 Kc5 Kg6 Bg5 Bd5 Rf6+ Kg7 Rd6 Be4 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kd4 Bf5 12839 <first : 11 +6 312 1046094 Kc5 Kg6 Bg5 Rd5+ Kb4 Bc2 Kc4 Rd7 Rf6+ Kg7 Re6 Bd3+ Kc5 Rc7+ Kd4 Rd7+ Ke5 15473 <first : 12 +5 575 1922752 Kc5 Kg6 Bg5 Rd5+ Kb4 Bc2 Kc4 Rd7 Rf6+ Kg7 Re6 Bf5 Re5 Kg6 Guenther [D]8/7K/7p/7P/1k3b2/1B1R4/8/5r2 b - - 0 171
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