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Subject: Re: "Fruit 2.2.1 has no partial extensions and it extends too much"

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 09:02:46 11/02/05

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On November 02, 2005 at 10:34:14, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 02, 2005 at 10:11:39, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On November 02, 2005 at 09:31:13, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>Yes Uri seems to be right in this. In most of my tactical test suites engines
>>>like Shredder, Fritz and even SlowChess are much = twice as fast! But still
>>>Fruit has won all matches so far. So Fruit's secret is NOT the search, but?!
>>
>>What makes you arrive at this conclusion?  It definitely doesn't follow from
>>your observations about tactical test suites.  You can have a very good
>>search and do only moderately well on tactical test suites, and you can have
>>a mediocre search and score exceptionally well in the same test positions.
>>
>>Tactical test suites does not measure playing strength, the quality of the
>>search, nor even the tactical abilities of the program (my own program
>>usually scores OK in tactical test suites, but is a relatively poor
>>tactician in real games).  Running such test suites can be fun, but the
>>results don't tell us anything of importance.
>>
>>Tord
>
>I think that the question about being better in tactics is which test suite you
>use.
>
>Maybe the arasan test suite is better because it include positions from computer
>games and not from human games and other test suites include too many sacrifices
>and tactics is not only about sacrifices.
>
>Uri

Has the arasan test suite been debugged?

Regards
Dave



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