Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Hard position: any solutions under 100 hours?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 12:59:10 11/04/05

Go up one level in this thread


On November 04, 2005 at 12:43:09, Jouni Uski wrote:

>[D]r1b1k1nr/ppp2ppp/n7/3pp3/N3q3/PK6/1PPP2PP/R1BQ1BNR b kq - bm Qxa4+ = draw
>
>Maybe incorrect (Hampe - Meitner 1872)?
>
>Jouni

Looks pretty good to me, but there might be a hole. Here's the best line, which
is very hard to find:

1...Qxa4+ 2.Kxa4 Nc5+ 3.Kb5! {3.Kb4 a5+ 4.Kc3 d4+ 5.Kc4 b6! 6.Qf3 Be6+ 7.Qd5
Bxd5+ 8.Kxd5 =} 3...Ne7 4.c4 d4! 5.Kxc5 a5! 6.Qa4+ {6.Qb3 b6+ 7.Qxb6 cxb6+ =}
6..Kd8 7.Qxa5 {all other moves = or worse} 7...Rxa5+ 8.Kb4 Nc6+ 9.Kb3

...resulting in this position:

[D]2bk3r/1pp2ppp/2n5/r3p3/2Pp4/PK6/1P1P2PP/R1B2BNR b - - 0 9

Does anybody even evaluate THIS as a draw? Noting that we're 18 plies into the
line, it's no wonder that comps have a hard time with it.

CM9_R1 on an AMD 2500 says this:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	1.98	8738		9...e4 10.d3 e3 11.Kc2 Re8 12.Nf3
0:00	1/5	1.97	20497		9...Bg4 10.Be2 Bf5 11.d3 Kc8 12.Bd2
					Ra6
0:00	1/5	1.88	25033		9...Bf5 10.d3 b5 11.c5 Re8 12.Kc2
0:00	1/6	2.08	36805		9...Bf5 10.d3 Re8 11.Bd2 Ra6 12.Ka2
					Kc8
0:00	1/6	1.87	47086		9...Bg4 10.Be2 Bf5 11.g4 Be4 12.Nf3
					d3
0:00	1/6	1.71	54641		9...e4 10.d3 e3 11.Kc2 Re8 12.Nf3
					Bg4
0:00	1/7	1.78	93204		9...e4 10.d3 e3 11.Kc2 Re8 12.Be2
					Bf5 13.Nf3
0:00	1/8	1.70	206672		9...e4 10.Ka2 Re8 11.Kb1 Bd7 12.Nh3
					Kc8 13.Nf4 d3
0:01	1/9	1.82	492689		9...e4 10.Ka2 Bf5 11.Ne2 Nb4+ 12.Kb3
					Nc6 13.Ng3 Bg4 14.Be2 Bxe2 15.Nxe2
0:05	1/10	1.75	1427244		9...e4 10.Ka2 Re8 11.b3 Bf5 12.Ne2
					Kc8 13.Nf4 g5 14.Nd5 Kb8
0:13	1/11	1.87	3727892		9...e4 10.Ka2 Re8 11.b3 Bf5 12.h3
					h5 13.Ne2 Nb4+ 14.Kb2 Nd3+ 15.Kb1
					Nxc1 16.Kxc1
0:39	1/12	1.71	11150646	9...e4 10.Ka2 Re8 11.Kb1 d3 12.b3
					Nd4 13.Ka2 Nc2 14.Rb1 Bg4 15.Nh3
					Kc8
1:44	2/13	1.85	30349276	9...e4 10.d3 e3 11.Be2 Re8 12.Kc2
					Bf5 13.Nf3 Nb4+ 14.axb4 Rxa1 15.Nxd4
					Bd7 16.Rf1 f6

jm



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.