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Subject: Re: Collector's Corner..A Call To Arms!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:56:07 11/06/05

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On November 06, 2005 at 12:26:14, A. Zanchetta wrote:

>Hi Steve,
>
>I have a simple solution for you : just send me your two modules and I'll be
>happy to play dozens of games :
>1) between the res programs,
>2) between the res and other programs
>
>:-)
>
>ok, more seriously, I would really like to see the result of a match between the
>RES (any program) and the R40 (or even R30) at a tournament's speed and not
>active chess.
>Why ? your previous match gave a very large victory of the res but according to
>an Active Chess tournament played on schachcomputer.info
>(http://www.schachcomputer.info/html/online_turnier.html), the Tasc does not
>seem to play its better chess at that speed...
>
>Best,
>
>Alain
>
>PS : Yes, I wish I had a Res too...


I think that it is obvious that no dedicated machine has chances against fruit
at long time control.

Fruit is a top program and it is known that top programs have better search
relative to old programs so the only chance of dedicated machines against
RES-fruit are in active chess because of the following 2 reasons:

1)fruit has bad time management for game in X minutes with ponder on.
2)fast time control also probably does not help fruit to get advantage of it's
superior search.

I think that it is clear that Res-fruit is better than other dedicated machines
and for me matches of Res-fruit against other dedicated machines are not
interesting and it is more interesting to see how it does against real programs
because we can learn from it and the hardware difference how much fruit earns
from faster hardware.

It will be pity if the ssdf test fruit only against dedicated machines because
these tests are not going to tell us something that we did not know(we know that
fruit is better and the question if it can get 70% or 80% is not very
interesting).

Uri



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