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Subject: Re: To NON-believers in EGTB benefits... (some engines benefit greatly..

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 21:26:30 11/20/05

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On November 21, 2005 at 00:21:20, A. Steen wrote:

>On November 21, 2005 at 00:01:48, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>>>Simply put, you need a more complex example.  :)
>>
>>I completely agree.
>
>Thanks for your support (btw and apparently relevantly when discussing EGTBs,
>your marital status and trouser preference lines are missing from your profile -
> before you are reminded by someone else!).

It's nice to know who you are talking to -- if they've made any contributions to
computer chess (no matter what size), written any programs or any other useful
(interesting) information or perhaps just another anonymous joker in the forum.


>
>By "complex" I mean chessically complex, of course.  Not necessarily more on the
>board.  Here, from the game later provided by the OP, is a good enough one (for
>Fruity, apparently):
>
>[D]2r5/8/5K2/3k4/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 93
>
>Even a beginner knows that R-c4, R-f8+ are 2 fastest wins. Less obviously, but
>due to the geometries of the position, K-d6 is equally fast.
>
>But Fruity (per the game: replication may be hard for the usual reasons re hash,
>also exact timings) manages only the scenic R-c3.  Worse, that is just part of a
>bigger pointless circuit.
>
>As I said, all the OP needed was a more complex example. The simplest EG
>algorithm would yield Ke3 in the example the OP first gave.
>
>Perhaps the OP could try out the other programs, sans EGTBs, on "my" position
>and find other culprits?  F9
>
>Best,
>
>A.S.
>
>Note to Graham: OP = Original Poster.



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