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Subject: Re: To NON-believers in EGTB benefits... (some engines benefit greatly...)

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 22:48:25 11/20/05

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On November 21, 2005 at 01:36:49, Tord Romstad wrote:

>Hi Enrico,
>
>This is not really a question of EGTBs or not, but about null move
>pruning.  Unlike most other engines, Fruit *always* uses null move
>pruning, even when one side has only the king left.  This is the
>reason why Fruit doesn't announce mate quickly in your position.
>
>Try to deactivate null move pruning in Fruit (set the "NullMove Pruning"
>parameter to "Never"), and Fruit will announce mate after a few
>seconds.
>

Hello Tord.

I understand that -- but my mainpoint was that EGTBs help in the same position
and *do* announce mate.  Unless Fruit can "auto-disable" its permanent NullMove
Pruning in such a situation than it benefits from EGTBs.

My mistake was to not post the rest of the analysis where the shuffling of
pieces (as in my later examples) took place.  Of course, if the shuffling and
pointless moves did not occur than I would agree that the only loss without
EGTBs would be the mate announced and polished PV (in the examples provided.)

Regards,

-elc.



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