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Subject: Re: Anyone played computer which gives queen odds?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:21:29 11/30/05

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On November 30, 2005 at 06:31:10, Tord Romstad wrote:

>A queen is simply too much, and as Uri said, computers don't really play
>well in positions with huge material odds.
>
>I tried three games against my own program:  A queen odds game, a rook odds
>game, and a knight odds game.  I won all three games fairly easily, and I am
>a very weak chess player.

You are not a very weak chess player.
I tried some games against fruit2.2.1

at 5 minutes per game I even lost(see the first game in this post)

at 5 minutes/40 moves with knight odd I could only get +1 =3 -1 and I was
generous to myself when I say it because I lost on time at move 40 in one of the
games when I used 1.3 seconds for move 40 when I had only 1.2 second for it but
continued the game inspite of it.

I believe that I can win at longer time control and I know that glaurung is not
fruit but I think that if you can beat glaurung with knight odd you are better
player than most of the posters.

I post all the 6 games that I played against fruit2.2.1 with knight odd

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Black "Uri Blass"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "69"]

1. Nf3 {9} Nf6 {3} 2. d4 {13} d5 {2} 3. Bf4 {18} Bg4 {6} 4. Ne5 {9} Bf5 {1} 5.
e3 {12} Nbd7 {1} 6. Bd3 {7} Bxd3 {1} 7. Qxd3 {10} Nxe5 {3} 8. dxe5 {12} Ne4 {6}
9. f3 {13} Nc5 {2} 10. Qb5+ {2} Nd7 {1} 11. Qxd5 {7} c6 {1} 12. Qd2 {9} e6 {1}
13. O-O-O {18} Nb6 {14} 14. Qe1 {8} Qc7 {1} 15. Qa5 {7} Nd5 {13} 16. Qxc7 {9}
Nxc7 {1} 17. e4 {6} Be7 {1} 18. Rd2 {6} Rd8 {2} 19. Rhd1 {7} Rxd2 {1} 20. Bxd2
{6} f6 {35} 21. exf6 {5} gxf6 {1} 22. Be3 {4} a6 {11} 23. g3 {6} f5 {16} 24.
Bf4 {6} Na8 {32} 25. exf5 {0} exf5 {1} 26. b3 {7} h6 {9} 27. Re1 {8} Kf7 {5}
28. Re5 {8} Kf6 {18} 29. Re2 {5} Rd8 {9} 30. c4 {10} Bd6 {8} 31. Bxh6 {6} Nc7 {
7} 32. Bd2 {0} Re8 {1} 33. Bc3+ {5} Be5 {10} 34. Rxe5 {5} Rxe5 {2} 35. f4 {7}
1-0


[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Black "Uri Blass"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator ",agur"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "73"]

1. e4 {11} e5 {3} 2. Nf3 {14} Nf6 {1} 3. Nxe5 {15} d6 {1} 4. Nf3 {8} Nxe4 {1}
5. d3 {19} Nf6 {1} 6. d4 {15} d5 {11} 7. Bb5+ {6} c6 {2} 8. Bd3 {5} Be7 {7} 9.
O-O {8} Bg4 {1} 10. h3 {6} Bxf3 {1} 11. Qxf3 {8} O-O {1} 12. Bf4 {15} Nbd7 {4}
13. Rfe1 {5} Re8 {1} 14. c3 {10} Nf8 {1} 15. a4 {6} Bd6 {1} 16. Rxe8 {5} Nxe8 {
2} 17. Bd2 {4} Qf6 {6} 18. Qg4 {5} Nc7 {56} 19. Bg5 {5} Qe6 {9} 20. Bf5 {0} Qe8
{11} 21. Bd2 {5} Nce6 {22} 22. Re1 {6} g6 {12} 23. Bd3 {0} Qc8 {10} 24. h4 {12}
Ng7 {7} 25. Qf3 {5} Nf5 {8} 26. h5 {8} Qd7 {19} 27. a5 {9} Re8 {4} 28. Rxe8 {6}
Qxe8 {1} 29. Bxf5 {8} gxf5 {1} 30. Qxf5 {4} Qe6 {29} 31. Qg5+ {6} Kh8 {1} 32.
Qd8 {7} Qd7 {17} 33. Qf6+ {3} Kg8 {1} 34. Qg5+ {6} Kh8 {1} 35. Qf6+ {3} Kg8 {1}
36. Qg5+ {4} Kh8 {1} 37. Qf6+ {3} 1/2-1/2

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Black "Uri blass"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator ",agur"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "135"]

1. e4 {13} e5 {2} 2. Nf3 {11} Nf6 {1} 3. Nxe5 {11} d6 {9} 4. Nf3 {0} Nxe4 {1}
5. d3 {6} Nf6 {1} 6. d4 {5} d5 {4} 7. Bb5+ {9} c6 {1} 8. Bd3 {12} Bd6 {2} 9.
Qe2+ {9} Qe7 {1} 10. Qxe7+ {7} Bxe7 {1} 11. O-O {12} O-O {3} 12. Re1 {3} Bd6 {3
} 13. Bg5 {9} Be6 {56} 14. Bxf6 {0} gxf6 {2} 15. c3 {30} Nd7 {11} 16. g3 {8}
Rfe8 {1} 17. Kg2 {11} Bg4 {3} 18. a4 {12} Bxf3+ {8} 19. Kxf3 {3} Rxe1 {1} 20.
Rxe1 {3} h6 {9} 21. a5 {8} Kf8 {6} 22. Bf5 {10} Rd8 {5} 23. b4 {13} b6 {8} 24.
axb6 {6} axb6 {1} 25. Ra1 {6} c5 {26} 26. bxc5 {6} bxc5 {1} 27. Ra6 {4} Ke7 {17
} 28. Ra7 {0} cxd4 {4} 29. cxd4 {6} Bb8 {4} 30. Rb7 {9} Bd6 {11} 31. Ra7 {3}
Ke8 {12} 32. Ra5 {9} Nb6 {11} 33. Rb5 {0} Rb8 {10} 34. Bg4 {14} Bc7 {19} 35.
Rc5 {4} Bd6 {12} 36. Rb5 {2} Ke7 {6} 37. Ke2 {8} Bc7 {6} 38. Ra5 {3} Kd6 {11}
39. Ra6 {0} Rb7 {7} 40. Bc8 {8} Rb8 {1} 41. Bg4 {4} Kc6 {12} 42. Kd3 {10} Kb5 {
4} 43. Ra7 {9} Kc6 {29} 44. Ra6 {4} Ra8 {6} 45. Rxa8 {11} Nxa8 {1} 46. f4 {9}
Nb6 {8} 47. Bd1 {10} Nc4 {20} 48. Ba4+ {6} Kb6 {6} 49. Be8 {9} Nd6 {2} 50. Ba4
{10} Ka5 {2} 51. Bc6 {8} Kb4 {48} 52. Bxd5 {7} Bb6 {3} 53. g4 {8} Nb5 {14} 54.
Bxf7 {8} Nxd4 {5} 55. h4 {6} Kc5 {14} 56. g5 {0} hxg5 {41} 57. fxg5 {9} fxg5 {
22} 58. hxg5 {3} Bd8 {6} 59. g6 {2} Bf6 {0} 60. Ke4 {12} Kd6 {1} 61. Bd5 {15}
Ke7 {5} 62. Bc4 {2} Kf8 {1} 63. Kd5 {6} Kg7 {2} 64. Bd3 {6} Nf3 {2} 65. Ke6 {8}
Ne5 {1} 66. Bf5 {8} Nxg6 {1} 67. Bxg6 {7} Kxg6 {0} 68. Kd5 {1} 1/2-1/2


[Event "5'/40"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Black "Uri Blass"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator ",agur"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[TimeControl "40/300:0/0:0/0"]

1. e4 {13} d5 {3} 2. e5 {11} c5 {4} 3. Nf3 {9} Nc6 {0} 4. Bb5 {8} Bg4 {7} 5.
O-O {16} a6 {3} 6. Bxc6+ {6} bxc6 {1} 7. h3 {11} Bxf3 {1} 8. Qxf3 {9} e6 {1} 9.
Qa3 {13} Qb6 {20} 10. Qb3 {8} Qxb3 {2} 11. axb3 {5} Nh6 {10} 12. d3 {10} Be7 {
11} 13. Bxh6 {7} gxh6 {0} 14. Ra4 {5} Bd8 {21} 15. f4 {11} Kd7 {4} 16. f5 {8}
Bc7 {12} 17. fxe6+ {9} Kxe6 {4} 18. Rf6+ {6} Ke7 {7} 19. Rxc6 {6} Bxe5 {7} 20.
Rxc5 {7} Rhc8 {33} 21. Rxd5 {8} Bxb2 {3} 22. Re4+ {5} Kf8 {7} 23. Re2 {1} Re8 {
11} 24. Kf1 {7} Rxe2 {4} 25. Kxe2 {2} Ke7 {8} 26. Rc5 {7} Rg8 {15} 27. Kf3 {5}
Rg6 {10} 28. Rc7+ {0} Ke6 {12} 29. Ra7 {6} Kf5 {6} 30. Rxf7+ {8} Rf6 {4} 31.
g4+ {8} Kg6+ {16} 32. Rxf6+ {11} Kxf6 {1} 33. Ke4 {9} Ke6 {2} 34. d4 {5} a5 {8}
35. c4 {0} Bc1 {12} 36. c5 {12} Ba3 {11} 37. d5+ {7} Kd7 {1} 38. Kd4 {7} Bb4 {1
} 39. Kc4 {7} Ba3 {6} 40. Kb5 {5} Bb4 {1} 41. Kb6 {11} Bc3 {12} 42. c6+ {8} Kc8
{52} 43. d6 {0} Be5 {38} 44. d7+ {18} Kd8 {1} 45. Kxa5 {7} Kc7 {28} 46. Kb5 {0}
Bd4 {6} 47. Kc4 {13} Be3 {5} 48. b4 {6} Bg5 {7} 49. Kd5 {0} Bh4 {10} 50. b5 {7}
Kb6 {22} 51. Ke6 {0} Bg5 {19} 52. Kf7 {11} Kc7 {6} 53. Kg7 {13} Kd6 {8} 54.
Kxh7 {11} Kc7 {17} 55. h4 {0} Bf4 {8} 56. b6+ {8} Kd8 {6} 57. b7 {12} Ke7 {13}
58. g5 {12} hxg5 {3} 59. hxg5 {2} 1-0


[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Black "Uri Blass"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator ",agur"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "104"]

1. Nf3 {9} Nf6 {5} 2. d4 {13} d5 {3} 3. Bf4 {18} Bf5 {2} 4. e3 {7} e6 {3} 5.
Bd3 {7} Bxd3 {2} 6. Qxd3 {10} Bd6 {0} 7. Qb3 {11} b6 {14} 8. Bg5 {7} h6 {2} 9.
Bxf6 {6} Qxf6 {2} 10. c4 {7} dxc4 {5} 11. Qb5+ {1} Nd7 {12} 12. Rc1 {0} Qf5 {34
} 13. Qxf5 {11} exf5 {1} 14. Rxc4 {5} O-O {2} 15. O-O {16} Rfe8 {10} 16. g3 {0}
c5 {11} 17. Rfc1 {7} Rac8 {6} 18. Kg2 {11} b5 {15} 19. R4c2 {9} c4 {1} 20. a4 {
8} a6 {12} 21. axb5 {0} axb5 {1} 22. b3 {11} Ba3 {7} 23. Ra1 {10} Bb4 {9} 24.
bxc4 {8} Rxc4 {11} 25. Rca2 {0} Bc3 {13} 26. Rc1 {10} b4 {10} 27. Ra7 {6} Nf6 {
2} 28. Rb7 {15} Rec8 {15} 29. Ne5 {16} R4c7 {5} 30. Rb5 {6} Bd2 {16} 31. Rxc7 {
6} Rxc7 {0} 32. Nd3 {6} Rc4 {23} 33. Rxf5 {7} b3 {12} 34. Rb5 {5} Rc3 {1} 35.
Nc5 {4} Rc2 {13} 36. Rxb3 {0} Be1 {5} 37. Nd3 {6} Bxf2 {10} 38. Kf3 {0} Bg1 {5}
39. h3 {9} Kh7 {0} 40. Rb1 {7} Bh2 {1} 41. Ne5 {11} Nh5 {19} 42. g4 {0} Nf6 {22
} 43. Nxf7 {0} Rc7 {12} 44. Nd8 {16} Re7 {17} 45. Rb7 {7} Rxb7 {11} 46. Nxb7 {6
} Kg6 {2} 47. e4 {9} Nd7 {5} 48. e5 {7} Kg5 {22} 49. Nd6 {7} Bxe5 {29} 50. dxe5
{8} Nxe5+ {1} 51. Ke4 {9} Nxg4 {6} 52. hxg4 {1} Kxg4 {0} 1/2-1/2

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Black "Uri Blass"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator ",agur"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "84"]

1. e4 {15} c5 {4} 2. Nf3 {12} Nc6 {1} 3. Bc4 {14} e6 {4} 4. O-O {12} d5 {4} 5.
exd5 {10} exd5 {0} 6. Re1+ {12} Be7 {8} 7. Bb5 {8} Nf6 {8} 8. Qe2 {6} Be6 {9}
9. d3 {0} O-O {8} 10. Bxc6 {7} bxc6 {1} 11. Ng5 {7} Qd7 {12} 12. Nxe6 {10} Qxe6
{5} 13. Qxe6 {7} fxe6 {1} 14. Rxe6 {5} Rae8 {41} 15. Bg5 {0} h6 {18} 16. Rae1 {
0} hxg5 {19} 17. Rxe7 {5} Rxe7 {5} 18. Rxe7 {6} Re8 {2} 19. Rxe8+ {10} Nxe8 {1}
20. Kf1 {11} Kf7 {3} 21. h3 {14} Kf6 {4} 22. Ke2 {7} Ke5 {5} 23. Kd2 {13} Nf6 {
7} 24. Ke3 {3} Kf5 {12} 25. Ke2 {5} g4 {12} 26. hxg4+ {0} Nxg4 {22} 27. f3 {11}
Nf6 {1} 28. g3 {10} g5 {1} 29. a3 {10} d4 {8} 30. Kf2 {10} Nd5 {3} 31. Ke2 {3}
g4 {4} 32. f4 {7} Nxf4+ {18} 33. Kf2 {7} Nd5 {4} 34. Ke2 {3} a6 {6} 35. a4 {5}
Nf6 {2} 36. Ke1 {7} Nh5 {2} 37. Kf2 {9} Ke5 {2} 38. Kg2 {4} Ng7 {6} 39. Kf1 {7}
Nf5 {1} 40. Kf2 {8} Ne3 {1} 41. Ke2 {15} Nxc2 {2} 42. Kd2 {135} Ne3 {12} 0-1


Uri



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