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Subject: Naming Suspected Computer Cheats could be considered slanderous

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 11:14:03 03/23/99

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On March 23, 1999 at 13:36:28, odell hall wrote:

>
>On March 23, 1999 at 07:24:29, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
[snip]
>>
>>Either way you should take it up with the chess server, I do not think this
>>place should be one for naming suspected cheats on chess servers. You should
>>have kept to your first thought about not naming him until he has either been
>>proved and kicked out of playing chess on the servers, until then one person
>>supporting your suspected view on this person on here does not make him guity,
>>and is slander.
>>
>>I know we had this king of thing happen before and then too I was against naming
>>names.
>
>
> Hi
>
>  My decision to reveal the cheaters name had nothing to do with the support I
>got here. It was based on my own investigations, which included looking up the
>person's uscf rating, also I went over the game myself with fritz5, if you have
>any doubts at all about this game, then go over the game yourself with Fritz5
>and you will not be able to escape the obvious conclusion. It doesn't take much
>intellegence to see that the guy cheated. I went over the games with four other
>programs and none of them match 100% as fritz5 does. Even if I did not examine
>his games, his uscf rating alone condemns him, if not then tell me a guy you
>know that is rated 752 uscf that draw's hiarcs7 and beats cm4000 running on a
>pent 233.

The point is not whether he cheated or not. The point is "Why is it important to
post the handle of the suspected cheater in a public forum such as this?".

To post the games and look for confirmation is fine. This allows others to
confirm or deny your suspicions and share information. To post the handle is not
fine. Regardless of what mechanisms you use to determine guilt or innocence,
your findings may not be conclusive, could be considered slanderous by some, and
are therefore inappropriate on this forum.

Suspected cheaters should be a matter for the chess servers and not for this
forum (with regard to their handles). The chess servers have mechanisms to
inform the members of their forum of suspected cheaters.

By naming them here, it's a way of casting aspersions on another where they may
not be able to defend themself. On the other hand, for all you know, this person
could be a member of this forum and by naming him as a cheater, you could be
violating rule #3 of this forum (Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks
on others) and not even know it.

KarinsDad :)



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