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Subject: Re:Help needed by the best !!!!

Author: Gert Alexander Gropp

Date: 21:53:56 03/23/99

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On March 23, 1999 at 21:33:18, Laurence Chen wrote:

>On March 23, 1999 at 15:16:40, Gert Alexander Gropp  wrote:
>
>>On March 23, 1999 at 12:20:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On March 23, 1999 at 12:05:05, Joeri wrote:
>>>
>>>>white to move !
>>>>white : pawns : c2 / c4 / a3 / f3 / g3 / h4
>>>>        king  : g1
>>>>        rook  : f1
>>>>        bishops : g2 / e5
>>>>        knight  : d4
>>>>black  : pawns : a6 / b5 / e6 / e4 / f5
>>>>         king : b7
>>>>         queen : g8
>>>>         bishop : c6
>>>>         knight : c5
>>>>The position is very difficult and i doubt any  computer will solve it !
>>>
>>>Can you post the solution (preferably the whole line it needs to find)
>>>near it and also who played the game?
>>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>Vincent
>>I looked at the previous lines and it seems to me that the tables turn in blacks
>>favour when the position is analyzed lets say 20 moves deep !
>>Such positions mean the limits of computerscience ,  maybe quantumtechnology
>>would help !
>>Computerspecialists as hyat would agree I think - we all know as humans that
>>such a position nhas no definite answer ! Things like that made me give up chess
>>!
>The position is not unsolvable. One has to analyze deeply in order to discover
>the essence of the position. I think that the best move for White is Nxc6
>followed by cxb5+ and fxe4. It is important to capture Black's bishop and open
>up the diagonals for the bishops and files for the rook. This will certainly
>improve White's chance of creating a mating net. White should win this position.
>Although I would agree that today's chess engine may not find Nxc6 as the best
>move.
I totally agree that white should win the position (as the overwhelming + score
points out) but i do not agree that a mating net can be found ! it always will
envolve a reducing picture toward a queen horse or queenbishop endgame where
both sides have attractive queening moves ! i think the pawns are more important
then the rook and the bishops - prove me with analysis chen ! you must be
chinese i suspect !



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