Author: KarinsDad
Date: 15:24:29 03/24/99
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On March 24, 1999 at 11:38:17, Bruce Moreland wrote: [snip] > >I think you are making too much of this. > >You go on the chess server and you play your games in public, and there they are >for the public to inspect, and your name is attached. > >If you make a dumb move in a game, and it is an important game, you can expect >to see people comment on the game, and include your name along with the >comments. > >I don't think it is a particularly violent attack to ask if others think that >someone is receiving outside assistance, especially if you have looked into it >carefully beforehand, and are responsible about how you write the post. Posting >the game with attached headers, including the names, allows people to check the >situation out for themselves, and avoids this nonsensical multi-phase identity >revelation process. > >There are rules here against personal attacks, but I think that if we are going >to maintain these rules we need to be careful about how they are enforced, so >they aren't used to quash legitimate and honest expression. > >It's like this recent thing with the German player who apparently used Fritz in >a human tournament. This can be discussed responsibly without making it a crime >to mention the guy's name. > >These are chess players, not rape victims. > >The way you guys talk about slander and suing people and such, if the world >really worked like that a newspaper would not be able to name someone who had >been indicted for committing a crime. > >I don't want to see hate campaigns in here, but let's prevent them without >creating a completely suffocating atmosphere where people are afraid to disagree >and afraid to criticize. > >bruce Very reasonable position Bruce. This has gotten out of hand. The main issue I have in this entire thing is due to the flagrant single minded obsessiveness of some computer chess hobbyists of putting the label of cheater on others. It's not a big issue. It's relatively easy to avoid on the chess servers if you know what you are doing. I would like my opinion question asked so that we could find out if most of the people want suspected cheaters to be allowed to be named here or not. I think I also have an issue with the word cheater since that implies that the person consciously broke the rules. This is a very negative word and in most circumstances of this nature, it is probably apt, but the word itself is rather abusive (I am not trying to make this forum politically correct, heaven forbid!). KarinsDad :)
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