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Subject: Re: What would happen if he doesnt????

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 18:55:45 12/09/05

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On December 09, 2005 at 21:38:14, Albert Silver wrote:

>On December 09, 2005 at 21:06:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 2005 at 20:51:39, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 2005 at 20:26:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 09, 2005 at 19:59:28, Ed Murak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 09, 2005 at 19:31:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Not giving it to people is clearly against the wish of a lot of people who are
>>>>>>interested in getting it.
>>>>>
>>>>>If that thinking was adopted as a general philosophy (which I know you have not
>>>>>said), have you considered what sort of world it would swiftly produce?
>>>>>
>>>>>Is that the sort of world you want?
>>>>
>>>>I do not know but it is possible that a world without author rights may be
>>>>better world for most people.
>>>>
>>>>The only negative side to most public may be that there are going to be less
>>>>programs and less books but on the other side the public is going to need to pay
>>>>less money for products.
>>>
>>>The negative sides would be a bit more than that. With no author rights, not
>>>only would you make it impossible for authors to make a living, but you would
>>>also be effectively saying that there is no right to protect ones ideas, which
>>>is what the whole patent process is about also. On top of that, the public
>>>wouldn't be paying less, they would be paying more. Much more.
>>>
>>>                                        Albert
>>>
>>
>>I am not sure about it.
>>
>>Even With no author rights author may still make a leaving.
>>authors may sell programs to a single customer.
>>authors may sell a program because buying the program mean getting technical
>>support and getting it from a friend does not mean getting technical support.
>>
>>I am not sure if patents is a good idea and people may be afraid to develop
>>something that is based on original idea of themselves because it is possible
>>that someone else thought about the same idea and already has a patent about it.
>>
>>>
>>>Less books, less programs, less progress,
>>
>>I am not sure about it.
>>It may be also more free source programs and more progress.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Can you point to one single communist country where there was more progress?

I did not say that being communist is a good thing.

>Human psychology says it isn't going to happen. If you the author of a program
>has the choice of going to one of the following countries to sell your program,
>which would it be?

I did not say to forbid the programmer to sell his program.
Selling to a single customer may be possible and even selling program with copy
protection when people who buy it are allowed to sell it if they crack the copy
protection may be possible.

There is an advantage from buying from the original author even if the copy
protection is cracked because the people who bought from the original author may
get updates and technical support.


>
>a) Shangri-La - here authors have their rights, enforcement is excellent, and
>they make what they can from their work.
>
>b) Atlantis - here authors have no rights, so that any potential creator must
>accept that people will only buy it if they must (for the most part) since they
>can get it for free. Dedicating yourself to open source programming is not
>possible, since there is practically no possibility to work as a professional
>programmer at all. After all, a software company would be no different from an
>individual. If the individual has no rights over his program, then neither does
>the company. Thus the software industry would pretty much cease to exist. The
>only professional programming of any kind would be government sponsored. As a
>chess engine author, you can only hope to get money from technical support by
>deliberately adding bugs to the program or not fixing know ones. As a book
>author, the opportunities to make money from technical support is even more
>limited, unless you deliberately remove key chapters...
>
>                                      Albert

For books technical support may be a bigger problem but it is possible that the
country check for popularity of reading books and pay the authors based on
popularity and I think that the same idea may be also possible for programs.

Uri



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