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Subject: Re: Different Hydra personalities against Rybka

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:22:51 12/13/05

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On December 13, 2005 at 03:21:07, Russell wrote:

>On December 13, 2005 at 02:47:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2005 at 02:16:50, Chrilly Donninger wrote:
>>
>>>I experimented recently with a Shredder-style search in Hydra.
>>
>>
>>What is shredder style search?
>>
>> The
>>>single-processor Shredder/Hydra completly demolished Shredder. If two programs
>>>are similar, the strength difference is enlarged. Its therefore a bad idea to
>>>tune a programme against itself.
>>>But the Shredder/Hydra made only 40% against Rybka. Changing back to the
>>>standard Hydra-search its between 75-80%. Rybka is regularily "killed" in
>>>king-attacks. As noted before, this numbers are for Hydra-single-processor. The
>>>PC-programm is running on a 3.2 MHz Pentium 4. Time control is 30secs/move. A
>>>standard-opening set similar to the Nunn-openings is used.
>>>
>>>Changing the search is not only a tactical matter. The playing style is to a
>>>large extend also influenced by the search. If two moves are from the evaluation
>>>point similar, the programm usually plays the one with the larger search tree.
>>>Or in other words: The lines which are extended. The Shredder/Hydra played
>>>over-aggressive, whereas the classical Hydra with the right dose.
>>>
>>>One conclusion of my experiment is: Rybka seems to be fairly tuned against
>>>Shredder. This is always the fate of the leader of the gang. In the future other
>>>programs will be tuned against Rybka and it will be much more difficult to stay
>>>on the top.
>>
>>Based on the blitz rating list Rybka32 -bit lost 12.5-11.5 against Shredder9(see
>>the link) so it does not seem to be tuned against shredder9
>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/eloblitz.html#2
>>
>>Uri
>
>In Earlier thread in this forum showed Shredder being destroeyd by Rybka. Look
>at Kurt Utzinger test. Rebka Scored like above 70% I belive.

I suspect that the question if shredder is destroyed by program X or not may be
dependent on the opening positions that are used.

Uri



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