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Subject: Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:33:56 12/24/05

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On December 24, 2005 at 04:10:11, Paul Jacobean Sacral wrote:

>On December 24, 2005 at 03:32:31, Robert Hollay wrote:
>
>> I just don't want to drive away a valuable progammer from here. Don't know
>>how many lines he changed in Fruit, but he succeeded to make it significantly
>>stronger.
>
>Exactly. Tueschen's comments seem to ignore that current Toga versions are
>completely compliant to the Gnu Public License conditions (IOW, open source).
>Maybe he doesn't understand what open source is about. Taking open source code
>and improving it is exactly what the o.s. idea goes for.
>
>The "problem" is that it has worked a bit too good here, obviously more than the
>original programmer could stand. So he closed the source.

Nonsense.

He closed the source because fruit2.1 became too strong and he understood that
there was a danger of clones winning important tournaments.

I do not think that there is a reason to attack thomas but your choice to attack
fabien is not accepted by me.

It is clear that he has right to close the source and he should not be attacked
for it.

opening the source helped mainly other programmers to improve their program and
made it harder for him to compete later with closed source.

I am sure that he can compete with thomas and win  but he may have more problems
to compete with SMK and other programmers.

Reasons that I expect Fabien to do better than Thomas G
1)Thomas does not work full time on Toga when fabien works full time on fruit
2)Fabien is better programmer than thomas.

>
>So who should be our hero, the one who opened but soon closed the source after
>collecting some additional ideas from others, or the one who did exactly what
>the open source idea is about and provides a strong engine for free?

You must remember that Fabien is more than 99% the author of Toga so it is clear
that fabien should be the hero.

Uri



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