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Subject: Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 02:45:02 12/24/05

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On December 24, 2005 at 04:10:11, Paul Jacobean Sacral wrote:

>On December 24, 2005 at 03:32:31, Robert Hollay wrote:
>
>> I just don't want to drive away a valuable progammer from here. Don't know
>>how many lines he changed in Fruit, but he succeeded to make it significantly
>>stronger.
>
>Exactly. Tueschen's comments seem to ignore that current Toga versions are
>completely compliant to the Gnu Public License conditions (IOW, open source).
>Maybe he doesn't understand what open source is about. Taking open source code
>and improving it is exactly what the o.s. idea goes for.

It is interesting what you all say under this name. Anyway, I state it just
because we have a general confusion about it. That someone works around on open
source, this is fantastic and very acceptable! Was that clear enough? My point
is that such someone shouldnt betray by inventing a new name and implying that
he had created a completely new program. This is the point and NOT the question
how many percentages he created at all. In my eyes of course he would be more
honest if he had created something higher than 1% different to the original! I
understand that all too well, in special that we have people here who dont take
the betrayal as something serious - after the sinner had apologized. But the
point here was different. The sinner came back and accused the community for its
"psyche", and that was the moment for me to clarify a couple of things. Finally
I am well aware that to some a psychologist is still more evil than someone who
betrayed the community. But this is only a problem for these very few...



>
>The "problem" is that it has worked a bit too good here, obviously more than the
>original programmer could stand. So he closed the source.
>
>So who should be our hero, the one who opened but soon closed the source after
>collecting some additional ideas from others, or the one who did exactly what
>the open source idea is about and provides a strong engine for free?
>
>Make your choice...
>
>(Make use of the 1% which distinguishes you from a chimp! :-)) )
>
>Yours truly Paul J. Sacral



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