Author: Thomas Gaksch
Date: 07:56:25 12/24/05
it is very difficult for me to describe this in english. first of all i want to clarify, that i always thank fabien for his great program fruit and everything he did for computer chess. an of course he is a great programmer and a great person. no doubt about that. i have never said anything else. i also have never said that i am the great programmer and that toga is full of new ideas. i have also never said that fruit wouldn´t be as strong as it is without toga. i just read the comments from ryan, uri, tord (programmers) and others about toga and i am very dissapointed from their statements. but i think there are some facts. first of all the most important fact is playing strength. CEGT 40/40 Fruit 2.1 = 2713 ELO CEGT 40/40 Toga II 1.1 = 2767 ELO CEGT Blitz Fruit 2.1 = 2703 CEGT Blitz Toga II 1.1 = 2767 and if you critizise me that i only wrote 47 lines of code for this improvement than i think that is not a negative point. not the quantity of lines is important. and if you critizise me that i invented nothing new than i can only say that it is true. why should i invent something really new, if it is possible to improve fruit with known techniques. you say that it is so simple what i have done. thats partly true. but believe me or not i invested a lot of time in testing und finding the right techniques which improved the playing strenght so much. if everything is so simple and fast to implement, why hasn´t done it fabien in fruit 2.0 or 2.1? i think fabien hastn´t done it, because he didn´t believe that these techniques would increase the playing strength so much. there is absolutely no doubt about it that it would be easy for him to do that. and it is 100% clear that he never used toga code in fruit. but i think i showed him the techniques which worked in fruit very well. so he saved a little bit time in testing this things because he saw in toga that it will work. i also said that i would never release a clone if it is not better than his original. so if ryan writes derogative about toga than i only can say "do it better". but you release one beta after the other and no beta is really stronger than toga 1.1. so you see it is not so simple to improve an existing engine like everybody thinks. i am absolutely sure that some people will again misunderstand my lines. but that are the facts about fruit/toga and i would have wished that the people would also accepted these facts. but it is only a whish. merry christmas Thomas
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