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Subject: Re: Paderborn: two impressive moves by Rybka

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 12:54:31 12/27/05

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On December 27, 2005 at 10:40:05, Albert Silver wrote:

>Rybka's 21-move miniature against Jonny was all the more interesting because of
>two spectacular moves. Can your engines find them?
>
>[D]2k3nr/1ppr1qpp/p4p2/3P3b/1b6/4BN1P/PP1N1PP1/2RQR1K1 w - - 0 16
>
>16.Nc4 deserves multiple exclamation points, especially due to the follow-up
>expected next move.

here's the output from CMX_Smooth (one of my 'positional settings')

CMX_Smooth likes Qa4 in this position with a score of +1.19...

it does consider Nc4 in some of its lines (g4 Bg6 Nc4...)

P3/850

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
----	----	----	----		----
0:00	1/3	1.33	869		1.Qb3 Bxd2 2.Bxd2 Qxd5
0:00	1/3	1.33	869		1.Qb3 Bxd2 2.Bxd2 Qxd5
0:00	1/4	1.33	2277		1.Qb3 Bxd2 2.Bxd2 Qxd5
0:00	1/5	1.16	10734		1.Qb3 Bxf3 2.Qxb4 Bxd5 3.b3
0:00	1/6	0.90	29860		1.Qb3 Bxf3 2.Qxb4 Bxd5 3.Nc4 Ne7
0:01	1/7	0.76	148136		1.Qb3 a5 2.g4 Bg6 3.Nc4 Kb8 4.Red1
0:02	1/7	0.99	171440		1.Qa4 Bxf3 2.Qxb4 Bxd5 3.Nc4 Bxc4
					4.Rxc4
0:03	1/8	0.63	340326		1.Qa4 Bxf3 2.Qxb4 Bxd5 3.Nc4 Bxc4
					4.Rxc4 Ne7
0:10	1/8	0.75	937701		1.d6 Bxd6 2.Qa4 Kb8 3.Bc5 Bxc5
					4.Rxc5 Bxf3 5.Nxf3
0:18	1/9	0.87	1698144		1.d6 Bxd6 2.Qa4 Kb8 3.Rc3 Nh6 4.Rb3
					Bxf3 5.Nxf3
0:42	2/10	0.69	4034194		1.d6 Bxd6 2.Qa4 Bxf3 3.Nxf3 Ne7
					4.Bd2 Rhd8 5.Re2 Be5
1:07	2/10	0.78	6644409		1.g4 Bg6 2.Nc4 Bxe1 3.Nb6+ Kd8
					4.Nxd7 Qxd7 5.Nxe1 Ne7 6.Rc5
1:56	2/11	0.67	11605138	1.g4 Bg6 2.Nc4 Bxe1 3.Nb6+ Kd8
					4.Nxd7 Qxd7 5.Nxe1 Ne7 6.Rc5 Kc8
5:13	2/12	0.85	33229107	1.g4 Bg6 2.Nc4 Bxe1 3.Nb6+ Kd8
					4.Nxd7 Qxd7 5.Qxe1 Ne7 6.Bc5 Nxd5
					7.Nd4
7:09	2/12	1.12	45805602	1.Qa4 Bxf3 2.Qxb4 Bxd5 3.Qc5 Qg6
					4.f3 Ne7 5.Qa7 Kd8 6.Bf4 Qf7 7.Rc3
					Nc8 8.Qb8
11:58	3/13	1.19	79065767	1.Qa4 Bxf3 2.Qxb4 Bxd5 3.Qc5 Ne7
					4.Qa7 Kd8 5.Qb8+ Nc8 6.Red1 Re8
					7.Nf3 b5 8.Nd4 Qg6
Dan
>
>I give Rybka VP 32-bit's analysis running on an Athlon 3500+ Venice (512 MB
>hash) here in contrast:
>
>Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Preview 2 32-bit:
>
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Bf4 Nh6 19.Nc4
>  ²  (0.48)   Depth: 10   00:00:03  460kN
>16.Nc4 Bxe1 17.Nb6+ Kb8 18.Nxd7+ Qxd7 19.Qd4 b6 20.Nxe1 Ne7
>  ²  (0.61)   Depth: 10   00:00:05  786kN
>16.Nc4 Bxe1 17.Nb6+ Kd8 18.Nxd7 Qxd7 19.Qxe1 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Ne7 21.d6
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 11   00:00:07  1199kN
>16.Nc4 Bxe1 17.Nb6+ Kd8 18.Nxd7 Qxd7 19.Qxe1 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Ne7 21.d6 Nc6
>  =  (0.20)   Depth: 12   00:00:16  2588kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Kd8 19.Qa7 Ne7 20.Bf4
>  ±  (1.26)   Depth: 12   00:00:24  3914kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Kd8 19.Qa7 Ne7 20.Bf4 Nc8
>  ±  (1.19)   Depth: 13   00:00:31  4968kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Kd8 19.Qa7 Ne7 20.Bf4 Nc8 21.Qb8 c6
>  ±  (1.10)   Depth: 14   00:00:46  7296kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Kd8 19.Qa7 Ne7 20.Bf4 Nc8 21.Qb8 g5
>  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 15   00:01:26  13585kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Ne7 19.Qa7 b5 20.Qxa6+ Bb7 21.Qxb5 Qxa2 22.Nc4
>Bc6
>  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 16   00:02:41  26031kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Ne7 19.Qa7 b5 20.Qxa6+ Bb7 21.Qxb5 Qd5 22.Qxd5
>Bxd5
>  ±  (1.36)   Depth: 17   00:06:23  63726kN
>16.Qb3 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qb6 Ne7 19.Qa7 b5 20.Qxa6+ Bb7 21.Qxb5 Qd5 22.Qxd5
>Bxd5
>  ±  (1.12)   Depth: 18   00:12:48  129472kN
>16.Nc4 Bxe1
>  +-  (2.07)   Depth: 18   00:42:53  407226kN
>
>Although hardware *and* running Rybka 64-bit obviously helped play a role, 42
>minutes is a lot, and my computer isn't THAT slow, so I wonder which Rybka
>personality is being used. The SP setting, one that has caught Vasik's attention
>yields:
>
>Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Preview 2 32-bit:
>
>16.Qa4 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qc5 b5 19.a4 Qg6 20.f3
>  ±  (1.17)   Depth: 12   00:00:12  2104kN
>16.Qa4 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qc5 b5 19.a4 Nh6 20.axb5 axb5 21.Qxb5 Qg6
>  ±  (1.23)   Depth: 13   00:00:26  4427kN
>16.Qa4 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qc5 b5 19.a4 Nh6 20.axb5 axb5 21.Qxb5 Qg6 22.f3
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 14   00:00:50  8652kN
>16.Qa4 Bxf3 17.Qxb4 Bxd5 18.Qc5 b5 19.a4 bxa4 20.Nc4 Bxc4 21.Rxc4 Qd5 22.Qf8+
>Rd8
>  ±  (1.21)   Depth: 15   00:01:42  17912kN
>16.Nc4 Bxe1 17.d6 Ba5 18.Nxa5 Ne7 19.Qd4 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Nd5 21.Qa7 Rxd6 22.Nxb7
>  +-  (1.64)   Depth: 15   00:06:57  75037kN
>16.Nc4 Bxe1 17.d6 Ba5 18.Nxa5 Ne7 19.Qd4 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Nd5 21.Qa7 Rxd6 22.Nxb7
>Kd7
>  +-  (1.71)   Depth: 16   00:09:05  96915kN
>
>
>Jonny took the rook (not that there weren't any better choices)
>
>[D]2k3nr/1ppr1qpp/p4p2/3P3b/2N5/4BN1P/PP3PP1/2RQb1K1 w - - 0 17
>
>Analysis by Rybka VP 1.01 Preview 2 32-bit:
>
>17.Nb6+ Kd8 18.Nxd7 Qxd7 19.Qxe1 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Ne7 21.d6 Nc6
>  =  (0.20)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  427kN
>17.Nb6+ Kd8 18.Nxd7 Qxd7 19.Qxe1 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Ne7 21.d6 Nc6 22.dxc7+ Kxc7
>23.Bf4+ Kc8
>  =  (0.23)   Depth: 11   00:00:06  1147kN
>17.d6 Ba5 18.Nxa5 Ne7 19.Qd4 Bxf3 20.gxf3 Qg6+ 21.Kh2 f5
>  ±  (1.35)   Depth: 11   00:00:13  2228kN
>17.d6 Ba5 18.Nxa5 Qxa2 19.Nc4 c6 20.Qd5 Bf7 21.Nb6+ Kd8
>  +-  (2.02)   Depth: 12   00:00:29  5070kN
>17.d6 c6 18.Qd4 Kd8 19.Rxe1 Ke8 20.g4 Bg6 21.Nb6 Kf8
>  +-  (2.19)   Depth: 13   00:00:59  10044kN



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