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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 on 11 Nolot pos, 1h20/pos : 8/11 !

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 15:11:33 12/27/05

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On December 27, 2005 at 17:50:38, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On December 27, 2005 at 17:39:32, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>It is possible to optimize for a test suite, but it will make for bad play.
>
>But THIS is not the case:
>
>all AMD 2400+ notebook
>
>H10 X (578 tc01) 2005
>
>Hiarcs 10 X (9.0578 tc01) - Fritz 9        6.5 - 3.5 +6/-3/=1 65.00%
>Hiarcs 10 X (9.0578 tc01) - Fruit 2.2.1    6.5 - 3.5 +4/-1/=5 65.00%
>Hiarcs 10 X (9.0578 tc01) - Shredder 9     6.0 - 4.0 +4/-2/=4 60.00%
>
>
 Nice results but i don't like the fact that you are using a beta version of
Hiarcs 10 for them..... If that "Hiarcs 10 X (9.0578 tc01)" are just parameters
different from the default for the commercially available Hiarcs 10 just ignore
all the above and below. But if it isn't and it is a beta then this is not
correct to claim anything about the commercially available Hiarcs 10.

 Because perhaps SMK also has a Shredder beta that beats Fritz9, Fruit2.2.1,
Ruffian2.1.0 but overall is not stronger from Shredder-final. Also perhaps there
is a Fruit beta that beats heavily Hiarcs10 and Fritz9 but makes much worse from
another Fruit beta overall. Amir Ban once said it had a nice beta that played a
very wonderful attacking Chess but that overall was behind of the released
Junior 9.

 The point: We should only care what the released Hiarcs 10 does and not what a
specific beta does! If this beta is stronger then i'm sure Mark Uniacke would
release it instead of the released one....

 What i mean even more specific: I don't like posts of the type:
EngineX beta-104 - Fritz 9    65%
EngineX beta-104 - Shredder 9 68%
EngineX beta-104 - Hiarcs 10  65%

....while the commercial release of EngineX is beta-125.
 The results of beta-104 are meaningless to the buyers since they don't have it!
 And since we have to assume that the author is clever, we imply that he should
have chosen the best engine overall. So the results of beta-104 cannot be used
to show the strength of the final released of EngineX (beta-125).......



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