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Subject: Re: SSDF(Fritz 9 - Fruit 2.2.1)A1200, 2-4

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:28:33 12/30/05

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On December 30, 2005 at 09:46:34, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On December 30, 2005 at 09:45:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>Note that there are also other differences between GambitFruit and Toga and my
>>only claim is that it is not clear if Toga1.1a is the best free engine.
>
>All evidence points to it, very strongly even.
>
>You didn't provide any to the contrary except a supposition from a competitor of
>Toga which was not supported by any presented data.
>
>--
>GCP

Maybe you are right.

I remember that ryan claimed that Gambit Fruit goes deeper at long time control
but I do not find evidence for that.

I tried toga and gambit fruit in nolot number 1 with 512 mbytes hash.

Toga finished depth 17 in less than half an hour based on my memory
Gambit fruit still at move number 4 at depth 17 even after more than 70 minutes
of search and still did not find the correct move after more than 2,500,000,000
nodes.


Here is the analysis.

New game
[D]r3qb1k/1b4p1/p2pr2p/3n4/Pnp1N1N1/6RP/1B3PP1/1B1QR1K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Toga II 1.1:

1.Ba2 Rxe4
  -+  (-3.84)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Bc2 Nxc2 2.Qxc2
  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qc1
  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qe2
  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Bd4
  ³  (-0.61)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
1.Bd4 Be7
  ³  (-0.52)   Depth: 2/11   00:00:00
1.Qe2 Rc8
  ³  (-0.39)   Depth: 2/11   00:00:00
1.Qe2 Rc8 2.Ra3
  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Bd4 c3 2.Rf3
  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Ne3 Nxe3 3.Rexe3 Qxa4
  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Qa7 Rb8
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Qa7 Rc7 3.Rf3
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Qa7 Rc7 3.Rf3 c3
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00  43kN
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Ne3 Nxe3 3.Rexe3 Qd7 4.Nd2 Rxe3 5.Rxe3
  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 7/24   00:00:00  130kN
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Nxh6 c3 3.Nxd6 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Rh1+ 5.Kxh1 Qe1+ 6.Kh2 Qxb1 7.Ndf7+ Kh7
8.Ng5+ Kh8 9.Ngf7+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/30   00:00:01  442kN
1.Qd4 c3 2.Rxc3 Nxc3 3.Bxc3 Nc6 4.Qc4 Rc8 5.Qd5 Na5 6.Qxa5 Bxe4 7.Bxe4 Rxe4
  µ  (-0.96)   Depth: 9/39   00:00:01  1038kN
1.Qd4 c3 2.Rxc3 Nxc3 3.Bxc3 d5 4.Bxb4 Qxa4 5.Bc3 Qxd4 6.Bxd4 Bb4 7.Rc1 dxe4
  -+  (-1.58)   Depth: 10/39   00:00:04  2720kN
1.Kh2 c3 2.Nxh6 Rxh6 3.Nxc3 Qd7 4.Nxd5 Nxd5 5.Kg1 Nf4 6.Qb3 Bd5
  µ  (-1.13)   Depth: 10/39   00:00:09  6630kN
1.Nxh6 c3 2.Bxc3 Nxc3 3.Rxc3 Rxh6 4.Ng5 Qh5 5.Rc7 Bd5 6.Qd2 Rf6
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 10/39   00:00:11  7728kN
1.Nxh6 c3 2.Re2 Rxh6 3.Nxc3 Qf7 4.Qb3 a5 5.Nb5 Rc8 6.Be4
  µ  (-1.07)   Depth: 11/39   00:00:13  9806kN
1.Nxh6 c3 2.Re2 Rxh6 3.Nxc3 Qf7 4.Qb3 Rc8 5.Be4 Bc6 6.Re1 Kg8 7.Nxd5 Nxd5
  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 12/39   00:00:21  15366kN
1.Nxh6 c3 2.Re2 Rxh6 3.Nxc3 Qf7 4.Qb3 Rc8 5.Be4 a5 6.Rd2 Rh5 7.Nxd5 Bxd5
  µ  (-0.97)   Depth: 13/42   00:00:37  27319kN
1.Ne3 Rxe4 2.Bxe4 Qxe4 3.Nxd5 Qxd5 4.Qc1 Nd3 5.Qxh6+ Kg8 6.Bxg7 Nxe1 7.Bxf8+ Kf7
8.Bxd6 Qd4
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 13/46   00:01:15  56687kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rexe3 Bxe4 3.Qg4 Rg6 4.Qxe4 Qxe4 5.Bxe4 Rxg3 6.Rxg3 Re8 7.Bf3 d5
8.Bc3 Kh7 9.Bxb4 Bxb4 10.Bxd5 Re1+ 11.Kh2
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 14/46   00:01:29  68045kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rexe3 Bxe4 3.Qg4 Rg6 4.Qf4 d5 5.Bxe4 dxe4 6.Rxe4 Qc6 7.Rxc4 Qd6
8.Rxg6 Qxg6 9.Rxb4 Bxb4 10.Qxb4 Re8 11.Bd4
  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 15/46   00:02:43  125500kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rgxe3 Nd5 3.R3e2 Nf4 4.Re3 Qh5 5.Qxh5 Nxh5 6.Bd4 Kg8 7.Bc2 Nf4
8.Rf3 g5 9.Rfe3 Bg7
  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 16/48   00:07:04  326221kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rgxe3 Nd5 3.R3e2 Nf4 4.Re3 Qh5 5.Qxh5 Nxh5 6.Bd4 d5 7.Nc5 Rxe3
8.Rxe3 Bc6 9.a5 Bd6 10.Bf5 Nf6
  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 17/53   00:13:18  612312kN
1.Nxh6 c3 2.Nf7+ Qxf7 3.Ng5 Rxe1+ 4.Qxe1 Qe7 5.Qd1 Nf4 6.Bxc3 d5 7.Bxb4 Qe2
8.Kh2 Qxf2 9.Nf7+ Kg8 10.Bxf8 Rxf8 11.Nh6+ Kh8 12.Nf5 Rf7
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 17/57   00:24:41  1113538kN

(,  30.12.2005)


New game
r3qb1k/1b4p1/p2pr2p/3n4/Pnp1N1N1/6RP/1B3PP1/1B1QR1K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Fruit 1.0 Beta 4bx:

1.Ba2 Rxe4
  -+  (-3.77)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Bc2 Nxc2 2.Qxc2
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qc1
  ³  (-0.64)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qe2
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Bd4
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
1.Bd4 c3
  ³  (-0.49)   Depth: 2/11   00:00:00
1.Qe2 Rc8
  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 2/11   00:00:00
1.Qe2 Rc8 2.a5
  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Bd4 c3 2.Rf3
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Qa7
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Qf3 Qh5 2.Bd4
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1.Qf3 Rc8 2.Qf5 c3
  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Qa7 Qf7
  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 4/16   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Qxa4 2.Qxc4 Rc8 3.Qb3
  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 5/22   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Qxa4 2.Qxc4 Rc8 3.Qb3 Qxb3 4.Rxb3
  ³  (-0.36)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:00  44kN
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Ne3 Nxe3 3.Rexe3 Qf7 4.Ref3 Qh5
  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 7/24   00:00:01  139kN
1.Qd4 Rc8 2.Nxh6 c3 3.Nxd6 Rxe1+ 4.Kh2 Rxb1 5.Nxe8 Rxb2 6.Nxg7
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 8/29   00:00:01  380kN
1.Qd4 c3 2.Bxc3 Nxc3 3.Qxb4 Nxe4 4.Qxb7 Re7 5.Qxe7 Bxe7 6.Bxe4
  ³  (-0.69)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:02  789kN
1.Qd4 c3 2.Bxc3 Nxc3 3.Qxb4 Nxe4 4.Qxb7 Re7 5.Qxe7 Bxe7 6.Bxe4 Rc8
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 10/32   00:00:03  1582kN
1.Qd4 c3 2.Rxc3 Nxc3 3.Bxc3 a5 4.Nxh6 Nd5 5.Ba2 Nxc3 6.Bxe6 Qxe6 7.Qxc3 Bxe4
  -+  (-1.54)   Depth: 11/37   00:00:11  5855kN
1.Qd4 c3 2.Rxc3 Nxc3 3.Bxc3 a5 4.Nxh6 Rxh6 5.Nxd6 Qxe1+ 6.Bxe1 Rxd6 7.Qh4+ Rh6
8.Qg5 Re8 9.Bc3 Re2
  µ  (-1.39)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:25  13711kN
1.Ne3 Rxe4 2.Bxe4 Qxe4 3.Nxd5 Qxd5 4.Qg4 Qf7 5.Re6 Kg8 6.Rf6 Bd5 7.Rxf7 Kxf7
8.Bxg7
  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 12/40   00:00:50  28310kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rexe3 Bxe4 3.Qg4 Rg6 4.Qxe4 Qxe4 5.Bxe4 Rxg3 6.Rxg3 d5 7.Bf5 Re8
8.Kf1 Nc6 9.Re3
  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 13/45   00:01:12  41192kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rexe3 Bxe4 3.Qg4 Rg6 4.Qxe4 Qxe4 5.Bxe4 Rxg3 6.Rxg3 Re8 7.Bf3 d5
8.Bc3 Kh7 9.Bxb4 Bxb4 10.Bxd5 Re1+ 11.Kh2
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 14/45   00:01:22  47573kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rexe3 Bxe4 3.Qg4 Rg6 4.Qf4 d5 5.Bxe4 dxe4 6.Rxe4 Qc6 7.Rxc4 Qd6
8.Rxg6 Qxg6 9.Rxb4 Bxb4 10.Qxb4 Re8 11.Bd4
  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 15/48   00:03:27  121882kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rexe3 Bxe4 3.Qg4 Rg6 4.Qxe4 Qxe4 5.Bxe4 Rxg3 6.Rxg3 d5 7.Bf5 Rd8
8.Rg4 Re8 9.Kf1 Nd3 10.Bxd3 cxd3 11.Bc3
  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 16/48   00:05:51  210890kN
1.Ne3 Nxe3 2.Rgxe3 Nd5 3.R3e2 Qc6 4.Qd2 c3 5.Bxc3 Nxc3 6.Qxc3 d5 7.Qxc6 Bxc6
8.Ng3 Rxe2 9.Rxe2 Bxa4 10.Bc2 Bb5 11.Re6 Bc5
  µ  (-0.83)   Depth: 17/55   00:15:42  580862kN

(,  30.12.2005)





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