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Subject: Re: *Rybka Misuse of CCC*

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 03:19:58 01/12/06

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On January 11, 2006 at 17:37:39, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>Hi All!
>
>Because this is becoming a real problem I want to ask you all.
>
>1) The appearance of a new engine is always a good event, hope you all agree?
>
>2) Never before - unless there was a scandal of some sort - a new engine was so
>heavily in the new messages of CCC, do you agree with me?
>
>3) As you know we have some 300 chess engines, amateurs and professionals; how
>can it be fair and justified that a single engine like Rybka is in the
>headlines?
>
>4) Recently I read stuff of this sort: we should all give Vas something because
>he also gives us so much; do you really think that because of this all the other
>engines have no right to be discussed and supported? Please why?
>
>Let me answer my questions in a somewhat general manner. I for one see a gross
>injustice in this appearance of Rybka, what is called aggressive marketing. I
>find it absolutely against the charter here that forbids advertising. At least
>in such a pusher manner. The point is that all other are forgotten or ignored.
>For what reasons? Because they dont have the chuzbe of Vasik? Let me clarify
>that I would tolerate such a vibe IF but only if Rybka were Freeware, but it's
>not! In this case Rybka consumers are misusing this open forum for their own
>interests. But all other programmers use the usual path of email feedback. In
>special I find it is a scandal towards Bob Hyatt who offers for a long period of
>time his Crafty for free. He created a special emaillist to keep the noise
>outside CCC. And Hyatt has no commercial interests at all.
>
>Vasik had a good status when he presented his free Rybka for download but now
>things got out of control. Hiarcs programmer Uniake has no time to even frequent
>this forum and he has a program with a long tradition. He gets crushed in the
>actual Rybka hybris. But again, all the amateurs are the real victims of this
>forum misuse. They have no commercial interests and therefore CCC seems to make
>them living deads. This cant be justified with no thinkable arguments.
>
>I know that now many supporters, fans and lovers of Rybka, also in face of the
>very noble Vasik and his big engagement in CCC, see my statement as possibly
>unfair towards Rybka/ Rajlich but I can only smash such reflections with the
>cool argument that I have 300 programmers and perspective engines on my side! I
>ask the host here, Steve Schwartz, if by chance commercial interests overruled
>the normal procedering in CCC?
>
>Please excuse me, but sometimes the truth will hurt no matter how you present
>it. B ut if I wouldnt speak it out an even bigger injustice would continue day
>by day.
>
>Let's get this back to normal. I dont want to miss Rybka news but all Rybka guys
>should also thing about all the other 300 collegues...
>
>
>Yours truly,
>
>Rolf

BTW - there will be a free version of Rybka. Not 100% sure yet which one, maybe
the Beta 1. Still it would be pretty boring to just discuss freeware.

Vas



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