Author: Swaminathan
Date: 21:16:45 01/13/06
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On January 13, 2006 at 23:06:35, Zappa wrote: >I stopped over to read CTF for a bit earlier today, and something hit me: I >actually found interesting posts to read, and that I hadn't really been that >interested in anything written at CCC for some time. So I started thinking >about this, and I started to realize that the composition of CCC has changed >quite a bit over the last year or so. Even I feel the same,CTF is less moderated and has limited memebers.But I do find lots of nice posters like Stephen Ham,Dan Honeycutt,Peter Berger,Bruce Moreland and few others,This company makes me visit the forum regularly and also make me read their posts.Also there are lots of interesting topics apart from usual religious/scientific controversy.IMHO I can see that my english skills have improved quite a bit,I was dummy in english and was too immature too,3 years ago. you are welcome to CTF.And oh yeah I was surprised when I first logged on to the CTF and I was viewing the subject head of posts and posters until I found Zappa in there.I then scrolled above to check If it wasn't CCC.Got you! haha :) >Back when I joined (feels like ages ago, even though its only a few years) there >were basically 4 groups of people at CCC: the optimizers (headed by Gerd) >posting on better methods to compute LSB and hardware and such things, the chess >experts, who were primarily interested having the computer analyze their games >and posted a lot of test positions, the authors (headed by the always-arguing >Bob and Vincent) who talked about search methods and eval tricks, and the >testers, who ran matches and posted the results. Somehow over the past year the >composition of the forum has shifted dramatically towards the testers, and >lately I feel that a good 50% of the posts here have been "I ran a tournament >with some engines under Y conditions", "Great work X, you're a cool dude", "No, >X is an idiot, because he used conditions Y! What a tool!". Yes,same hobby of testing engines over and over again.Believe it or not,I got bored of it :) >I personally was never that interested in test results; I joined for the other >types of posts, and they have simply disappeared. Bob has posted about 10 times >in the past year. Ditto for Vincent. GCP only posts to correct idiocies. Gerd >barely posts any more. Fierz is gone. Fabien is gone. Bruce is gone. About Fabien is here and posts from time to time especially during the release of Fruit and tourney where his engine was playing. >I am not sure why CCC has changed as it has. I have always resented the Deep >Blue team for insinuating that computer chess was solved in 1995, but has it >been solved in 2006? I haven't really heard of any new engines. When I look CC can't be solved.even with fastest hardware.IMO but who would hear my opinion anyway >Anyway, I don't really know what the future of computer chess will be, More Chess engines ofcourse :)But I don't see any point in having a lots of chess engines and running a tournament.But it's just an hobby. I'm more interested in playing online to challenge players of my rating level,at playchess,WCN and ICC,guess I gonna buy membership there. > but I do >know that I personally will probably not be reading CCC much in the future, and >I guess I'm arrogant enough to make a big post out of it. > I'm not leaving out >of disgust at bad treatment or anything, so I might stop by from time to time >(perhaps at Torino), but I won't be reading this forum regularly any more. All the best to you and your engine at Torino. Swami
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