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Subject: Re: Rebel's Phony Elo settings

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 23:28:23 04/04/99

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>Posted by Dave Gomboc on April 04, 1999 at 13:40:16:

>>  Not exactly true, Dave. You can set the Elo option at any level you like,
>>even 800 ;-) I often play Rebel at a time level of 5 sec./move and
>>Elo 1200-1300 and I have good games, although I still have to actually win
>>one... (sigh) At that level, I generally get a good position because
>>the program seems to neglect its king safety, and then I loose because
>>I typically leave a piece "en prise" or don't see a tactical shot that Rebel
>>is still able to spot, even at that level. That's on a P100 and of course,
>>I don't use the regular book; instead, I either select the small book or the
>>"blunder" book.
>>
>>                          Regards,
>>                                        François Bertin
>
>We have a misunderstanding.  While you can set it to 800, it will never
>play as bad as an 800.  There is a limit to its "artificial dumbness". :-)  That is
>what I meant when I said "there is a certain limit below which it doesn't go...".
>Maybe that limit is 1400, maybe 1600, and as Ed reports, it's certainly much
>higher than those figures at blitz.
>
>I think Ed did get some useful feedback though: now he is aware that people
>expect the estimated rating to take into account the time control, instead of
>assuming a 40/2 game.
>
>Dave Gomboc

I had a look what the manual had to say about this. The FIDE vs USCF
rating issue is mentioned, the blitz vs 40/2:00 issue is not. I think
it is wise to include this in future versions of the manual. As for
its supposed "artificial dumbness" I think there is. My estimation:
1500 (fide) elo at 5/all and 1300 (fide) at 40/2:00

Here are some hints to weaken Rebel10 even more. Text taken from:

www.rebel.nl/r10-hint.htm

Ed Schroder
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HINT-6: Lowering Rebel's playing strength (1)

Always losing to Rebel? That's no fun indeed. Why not try Rebel10's ELO option?

Go to menu OPTION and select ELO rating.
From the sub-menu select .... and type your own ELO rating.

You now have an opponent as strong as yourself!

Next week more tips to lower Rebel10's playing strength.




HINT-7: Lowering Rebel's playing strength (2)

Always losing to Rebel? Here are some more hints!

. Set Rebel's Playing Strength to NOVICE (menu OPTION). Rebel will
  play as a real novice.

. Set the time level to PLY=1 (menu LEVEL).

. Turn off Rebel's Permanent Brain (menu OPTION). Rebel will not think
  in your time (when it is your turn to move).

. Use Rebel's Energy FUN option (menu EXTRA). Depending on your
  choice Rebel will kind of freeze your PC into an old IBM-PC at 4.77 Mhz
  (the first personal computer) and thus lower the playing strength
  enormously.

. Turn off all Rebel's opening books (menu BOOKS).

. All the above mentioned hints can be combined with each other resulting
  in an even more decreased playing strength of your REBEL10!


BLUNDER BOOK (book fun!) 

Always losing to Rebel10?

. The special BLUNDER BOOK might be a way out.
. Rebel10 in every opening will make horrible mistake.
. Just take your chance and win!

. There are 237 of such opening lines in this blunder book.
. Can you win 237 times in a row?

As the blunder book also shows you the Rebel score you can't miss!



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