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Subject: Re: comparing rybka betas

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 20:58:43 01/17/06

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On January 17, 2006 at 14:25:56, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 17, 2006 at 14:13:48, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2006 at 22:18:00, James C. Logan wrote:
>>
>>>On January 16, 2006 at 20:04:37, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just finished some testing between the betas. It was 4 min with 2 sec
>>>>increments on a decent pentium. Nooman test set. Default paremeters.  All games
>>>>were versus fritz9. There seems to be no significant differences, but it is
>>>>critical to not infer too much, given n size is still small and this was against
>>>>only one engine.
>>>>
>>>>best
>>>>Joseph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rybka beta 1      58-42
>>>>Rybka  9b          59.5-40.5
>>>>rybka 10d          56 - 44
>>>
>>>Interesting - my feeling is that 10d is slightly weaker against Fritz 9 than
>>>Beta 1 was, and that it is a bit stronger against Fruit 2.2.1. I have a database
>>>(Chessbase format) with 47 games Rybka 10 vs. F9, and 100 games Rybka 10d vs.
>>>Fruit 2.2.1. All games at time controls 4'/40+4'/40/+4'. Rybka 10 and 10d with
>>>defaults except using adaptive mode. F9 and Fruit using their own books, Rybka
>>>using Perfect 8.32.
>>>
>>>Scores - +15/-14/=18 vs. F9 , +37/-23/=40 vs. Fruit 2.2.1
>>>
>>>I will email the .cbv to anyone who wants it.
>>
>>My first impressions of 10d was that it was no better than the rest.  Now after
>>about 350 blitz games it is leading all other Betas by at least 30 Elo in my
>>"Rybka only" database.  It's all the Rybka versions vs Fritz 8/Shredder
>>9UCI/Fruit 2.2.1/Toga II 1.1/Junior 9 and Chess Tiger 2004.  The games are all
>>with ponder on and each program has it's own cpu.  This program looks very
>>strong to me.
>>Jim
>
>Do you use a book for rybka in your tests.
>
>Uri
Hello Uri,
I stopped testing Rybka without a book.  I run Rybka under 2 different GUIs.
When I run Rybka under the Fritz GUI I use the Fritz 8.ctg book for Rybka.  When
I run Rybka under the Shredder 9UCI interface I use the Shredder 9 book.  When I
tested the original Rybka Beta it was ahead of all other programs except Fruit
and Toga and it played without a book.  It seems the two books I use give it a
big jump in strength vs no book as you would expect.
Jim



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