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Subject: Re: moderation Tueschen threats...

Author: Thomas Lagershausen

Date: 04:52:03 01/20/06

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On January 20, 2006 at 07:46:21, Günther Simon wrote:

>On January 20, 2006 at 06:42:42, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2006 at 06:32:48, Günther Simon wrote:
>>
>>>On January 20, 2006 at 06:04:57, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 20, 2006 at 05:51:32, Martin Andersen2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 20, 2006 at 05:28:47, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I question that Rybka is already proven the strongest engine today. Then people
>>>>>>tell me to look at CEGT where that has been proven... This was a few days ago
>>>>>>here in CCC. I must object to such sort of hybris. The truth is that we dont
>>>>>>have statistical methods for making such claims. Even after 700 or maybe over
>>>>>>1000 games the significance is not so sure and if you look at the +/- boundaries
>>>>>>of the so called Elo results then you still have overlappings and you cant say
>>>>>>that Rybka is the clear first.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rybka 1.0 beta 64 bit 2859 +-21
>>>>>Deep shredder 9 2CPU 2804 +-17
>>>>>
>>>>>So Rybka's number 1 spot cannot be touched. You are wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>Martin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1 Rybka 1.01 Beta 9 64-bit opt 2921 73 68 71 80.3 % 2677 33.8 %
>>>>2 Rybka 1.0 Beta 64-bit 2859 21 21 765 68.4 % 2725 32.7 %
>>>>3 Deep Shredder 9.12 x64 2CPU 2844 45 45 168 64.6 % 2740 30.4 %
>>>
>>>
>>>Also apples and oranges... You show 1CPU vs. 2CPUs
>>>scroll a bit down to find an appropriate Shredder for real comparison
>>>
>>>...snip babbling...
>>
>>
>>Please just try to behave. Otherwise you wont last very long here in CCC. In the
>
>I would say silly threats are bad behaviour. Forget it you are
>still just a troll(proofs in the net for 10 years) after all and all know it...
>Running out of arguments? It is clear that the one who will not last
>long here is much more likely the Tueschen case.
>
>>meantime look also here into the ratings of Kurt Utzinger:
>>
>>1 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit 2620 20 25 700 67.0 2497 30.0 %
>>2 Toga II 1.1 2595 23 24 600 61.8 2512 33.3 %
>>3 Fruit 2.2.1 2591 18 20 1010 62.8 2500 29.2 %
>>4 Fritz 9 2589 19 21 880 62.2 2503 28.0 %
>>
>>Also here you can see the same.
>
>What? What is the same? Haven't you been proven wrong already with
>interpreting CEGT stats, which provides much more value, because
>of superior game numbers? Strange answer...
>
>>Of course Rybka is leading (probably for the
>>given reasons of its daily updates) but the differences are NOT significant. It
>>is all about the power of stats and NOT my personal beliefs or my prejudices, as
>>you want to propagate. Next time you repeat such nonsense I'll contact the mod.
>
>I contact the mods, because you always write nonsense in CCC and it is clear
>_YOU have_ an agenda with Rybka. period.
>You couldn't even read the simple 2CPUs vs. 1CPU.
>
>G.

I absolutly agree.It is a campaigne with the simple method by ignoring important
informations. I gave enough examples in this thread.

TL



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