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Subject: Re: First results CHESS 2010 POLL

Author: blass uri

Date: 07:35:11 04/06/99

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On April 06, 1999 at 02:13:16, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On April 06, 1999 at 01:02:59, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>
>>Question 5: Which is in your opinion the strongest chess program
>>at the moment in the HUMAN versus COMP area?
>>
>>REBEL10                          50
>>Hiarcs7                          27
>>Fritz 5.32                       20
>
>>Question 6: Which is in your opinion the strongest chess program
>>at the moment in the COMPUTER versus COMPUTER area?
>>
>>Fritz 5.32                       47
>>Hiarcs7                          31
>>ChessMaster 6000                 18
>
>Heh, heh, heh - what else can we expect from Rebel homepage! These poll
>questions are quite leading...
>
>After 15 years with computer chess I don't think, that some some program
>is playing relatively better against human than computer. Sorry Ed., but there
>is no evidence.

We have not enough data to prove but do you have evidence that it is not the
case?

There are things that are productive humans but are not productive against
computers:

1) playing faster when the opponent is in time trouble

2) choosing the right opening and not going to positions that computers do not
understand.

The game of odell hall against genius3 is an example of not choosing the right
opening by Genius3.

It is not a problem against computers who do not know the positional plan of
white but is a problem against humans.

3)having a different evaluation function that prefer positions that humans do
not like.

4)Consider the fact that the human may go wrong and knowing what kind of
tactical mistakes humans do.

I remember that I saved a lost game by a move that no computer will do because
they do not consider the possibility that the opponent will do a mistake and
believe that -5 is better than -7 with a practical chance for a draw.

Uri



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