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Subject: Re: Rybka improvements

Author: Joseph Ciarrochi

Date: 04:53:39 01/26/06

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>
>I think that it is a bad comparison because the CEGT use different positions and
>not the noomen test.
>
>The only good way to compare is if the same computer and the same positions
>are used for the first version and the last version.
>
>Uri

yes, i am planning to run beta 1 on the same computer against the same
opponents. I agree this is the best control

However, your use of terms like "bad comparison" and "the only good way"
suggests that there is no generality across computers and opening sets. I am
sure despite your language you don't mean anythything quite this extreme? This
sort of language would imply that you can't really ever say one engine is
stronger than another, since it would be "entirely" conditional on opening set
and computer.

Actually, my experience has been  that the results are quite consistent, if you
hold time controls constant. indeed, even when you don't hold time controls
constant, they are pretty consistent (the 40/4 blitz cegts rating predicts over
99% of the variance in the 40/40 time control ratings).

Anyway, i am open to you empirically supporting your arguments. Perhaps you can
provide evidence for poor generalization across different computers or across
different, well accepted opening sets (assuming the 40/4 repeated time control).

In the meantime, i'll finish running this tournment (1200 games to go:() and
then examine the extent my results overlap with the CEGT 40/4 rating list.


best
Joseph







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