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Subject: Re: Ivanchuk vs Gelfand

Author: Majd Al-Ansari

Date: 21:28:38 01/28/06

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No boasting here, after f3+ all that black has to calculate is that the King has
to take and cannot go back.  then there is a check with N which covers a lot of
squares with another Queen check if the King moves in a certain area.  All other
areas there are a N check and really you don't have to calculate.  It just looks
like for a mere pawn you are getting unbeleivable compensation and the King has
only FORCED moves.  While black does not have to calculate every mating line, he
can surely calculate that white will lose a lot of material if not get
immediately mated.


On January 28, 2006 at 15:11:51, Sebastian Leibnitz wrote:

>On January 28, 2006 at 15:06:37, Majd Al-Ansari wrote:
>
>>[D] 2q3k1/5pp1/3Rn3/4P2p/2QP1p2/2n3P1/P4PKP/1r3B2 b - - 0 40
>>
>>Here Ivanchuck traded queens ?????????  Unbeleivable !!!  I guess even Super
>>GM's can miss a move that even in 1 0 bullet is obvious. f3+ with queen and 2
>>Knights and a Rook seem so obviously a mating net that it is hard to believe
>>that Ivanchuk missed it.  I was watching this game and completely stopped
>>looking at it thinking it was 0-1.  Rybka gives a +11 for f3+ ....  I guess we
>>can all make fun of how computers play endgames ... but they must be making fun
>>of how even a top 10 Super GM can miss such a elementary win.  I really would
>>have liked to have seen the look on Gelfands face when Ivanchuk trading queens.
>
>
>Mmhh, it aint that obvious. Was he in time trouble??
>
>I take your 1 0 bullet comment for boasting, as it aint that easy (even for a
>GM) to quickly calculate wheather such an attack can be refuted...



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