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Subject: Re: rybka vs hydra

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 05:50:30 02/01/06

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On February 01, 2006 at 04:42:56, Ryan B. wrote:

>On February 01, 2006 at 02:17:40, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2006 at 01:50:23, Ryan B. wrote:
>>
>>>On January 31, 2006 at 23:07:08, walt irvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>in a rybka vs hydra match ,,,with rybka using a athlon 3800 12 game match 40
>>>>moves in 2 hours what is the predicted score ???????????
>>>>
>>>>mine is hydra 9/3
>>>>
>>>>walter
>>>
>>>I think your prediction is very good.  What I think many people fail to realize
>>>about Hydra is that it is a dedicated chess machine so it does not suffer the
>>>same overheads that PC chess engines have.  Also Software optimized for just one
>>>exact platform can be very fast compared to traditional PC programs.
>>>
>>>Ryan
>>
>>I do not agree.
>>
>>By that logic Crafty with 8 processors can also beat Rybka with one processor
>>but it is probably not the case.
>>
>>The fact that hardware that is dedicated for one task has a potential advantage
>>does not prove that hydra is better.
>>
>>The facts are that Rybka is leading the CEGT list even if you consider only 32
>>bits and not one of the better hardware participants.
>>
>>This is from the CEGT rating list.
>>
>>2 Rybka 1.01 Beta 13-13b 32-bit 2886 45 45 189 74.1 % 2704 28.6 %
>>6 Deep Shredder 9.12 x64 2CPU 2822 35 34 283 64.7 % 2717 31.1 %
>>
>>14 Shredder 9 2754 8 8 4776 63.3 % 2660 31.8 %
>>34 Crafty Cito 1.4.2 64-bit 2CPU 2695 59 58 106 63.7 % 2598 27.4 %
>>
>>As you can see even the combination of 64 bits and 2 cpu does not help when you
>>have inferior program.
>>
>>If 64 bits+2 cpu gives does the program 3 times faster then you have:
>>
>>Crafty*3<Shredder
>>Shredder*3<Rybka and in other words
>>
>>Crafty*9<Rybka.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I have no idea how anything I said had anything to do with crafty.  Because we
>do have a Hydra sitting around to test out in our homes we go by what e believe.
> Based on what I have read here including posts by Chrilly and results of games
>Hydra has played in the past I believe Hydra to be much stronger than Rybka or
>any other known chess entity at this time.  I hope to see Zappa take that crown
>in the future though.
>
>Ryan

You have a Hydra sitting around in your home?  You believe what Chrilly says
about his own program?  Chrilly is just patting himself on the back.  I believe
nothing he says.  Hydra is nothing but Nimzo (poor program) with fast hardware.
(my opinion)  Only thing that counts is results.
Jim



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