Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 06:19:46 02/01/06
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On February 01, 2006 at 07:58:37, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On February 01, 2006 at 05:50:19, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 01, 2006 at 04:42:56, Ryan B. wrote: >> >>>On February 01, 2006 at 02:17:40, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On February 01, 2006 at 01:50:23, Ryan B. wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 31, 2006 at 23:07:08, walt irvin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>in a rybka vs hydra match ,,,with rybka using a athlon 3800 12 game match 40 >>>>>>moves in 2 hours what is the predicted score ??????????? >>>>>> >>>>>>mine is hydra 9/3 >>>>>> >>>>>>walter >>>>> >>>>>I think your prediction is very good. What I think many people fail to realize >>>>>about Hydra is that it is a dedicated chess machine so it does not suffer the >>>>>same overheads that PC chess engines have. Also Software optimized for just one >>>>>exact platform can be very fast compared to traditional PC programs. >>>>> >>>>>Ryan >>>> >>>>I do not agree. >>>> >>>>By that logic Crafty with 8 processors can also beat Rybka with one processor >>>>but it is probably not the case. >>>> >>>>The fact that hardware that is dedicated for one task has a potential advantage >>>>does not prove that hydra is better. >>>> >>>>The facts are that Rybka is leading the CEGT list even if you consider only 32 >>>>bits and not one of the better hardware participants. >>>> >>>>This is from the CEGT rating list. >>>> >>>>2 Rybka 1.01 Beta 13-13b 32-bit 2886 45 45 189 74.1 % 2704 28.6 % >>>>6 Deep Shredder 9.12 x64 2CPU 2822 35 34 283 64.7 % 2717 31.1 % >>>> >>>>14 Shredder 9 2754 8 8 4776 63.3 % 2660 31.8 % >>>>34 Crafty Cito 1.4.2 64-bit 2CPU 2695 59 58 106 63.7 % 2598 27.4 % >>>> >>>>As you can see even the combination of 64 bits and 2 cpu does not help when you >>>>have inferior program. >>>> >>>>If 64 bits+2 cpu gives does the program 3 times faster then you have: >>>> >>>>Crafty*3<Shredder >>>>Shredder*3<Rybka and in other words >>>> >>>>Crafty*9<Rybka. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I have no idea how anything I said had anything to do with crafty. Because we >>>do have a Hydra sitting around to test out in our homes we go by what e believe. >>> Based on what I have read here including posts by Chrilly and results of games >>>Hydra has played in the past I believe Hydra to be much stronger than Rybka or >>>any other known chess entity at this time. I hope to see Zappa take that crown >>>in the future though. >>> >>>Ryan >> >>I wonder what are the results that you talk about? >> >>I know that in long time control hydra could not even get into the quarter final >> >>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2446 >> >>I know that it lost in the first 2 correspondence games against GM nickel and >>based on the report it has only equality in the third game. >> >>Note that commercial chess engines that are clearly weaker than rybka could beat >>GM nickel 3.5-2.5 > >Doesn´t mean anything since Nickel choose two very weak opening lines in this >match. >The Modern game and the Caro Kann game are bad jokes. >You can play such lines over the board against weaker opposition, not in >correspondence games. > >Michael Even if I agree that Hydra is probably stronger than any PC program, I can not understand why you say the Caro Kann is a joke. Have you seen it refuted anywhere? Torstein > > > >>for the games see >>http://www.chessfriend.com/ >> >> >>Uri
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