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Subject: Re: A note.

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 23:33:25 02/10/06

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On February 10, 2006 at 20:50:22, Randall Shane wrote:

>On February 10, 2006 at 19:19:04, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2006 at 12:31:06, h.g.muller wrote:
>>
>>>On February 10, 2006 at 12:14:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm not 100% certain that the
>>>>largest displacement would be produced by a sphere _totally_ contained in the
>>>>cone, although intuition says that is correct.
>>>
>>>Actually, it is not, as you can easily see from the limiting case of a very
>>>blunt cone. The hight might be 1 cm and the opening radius 1m, and a sphere that
>>>entirely immersed (radius ~0.5 cm) would hardly displace any water. A sphere
>>>double the size woud be ~half immersed, but have 8 times the volume and thus
>>>displace 4 times as much water. But a 10m-radius sphere would even do better.
>>>
>>>By a similar argument you can also see that touching at the opening rim of the
>>>cone is not generally optimal: for a very acute cone that has only ~half the
>>>sphere immersed, while a slightly smaller sphere might sink deep into the cone
>>>and be entirely immersed.
>>>
>>>The general solution has the two touching somewhere inside the cone, and the
>>>exact point is very hard to find without doing the math.
>>
>>The sphere is dropped 'into the cone' - so submerged , not floating.
>>Hence solution is to find the incentre of the triangle (2d-ification of the
>>cone) and use that to find the radius.
>>
>>
>>Mridul
>
>The problem is not to find the largest spehere that is totally submerged, it to
>find the sphere that displaces the largest amount of water when it sinks.

Both are the same problem.
The largest amount of liquid displaced == largest volume of the sphere == same
as what I described.
Otherwise , you will need to know details of the density of the sphere , etc to
calculate the sphere which can by partly submerged and yet still displace more
water.



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