Author: enrico carrisco
Date: 11:24:49 02/13/06
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On February 13, 2006 at 11:06:57, Albert Silver wrote: >On February 13, 2006 at 04:53:57, enrico carrisco wrote: > >>On February 13, 2006 at 03:33:38, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >> >>>On February 13, 2006 at 02:14:07, Ryan B. wrote: >>> >>>>On February 12, 2006 at 21:55:40, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 17:16:43, Ryan B. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 13:32:33, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>This is nothing more than a flagrant attempt in polling users about possible >>>>>>>commercial payment possibilities for your program, and as such I am removing the >>>>>>>thread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>As per the charter: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and >>>>>>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response >>>>>>>messages: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess >>>>>>> 2. Are not abusive in nature >>>>>>> 3. Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others >>>>>>> 4. Are not flagrant commercial exhortations >>>>>>> 5. Are not of questionable legal status. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What about rule #4 do you not understand? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Thank you for standing up to the Rybka hype machine. I believe that you have >>>>>>nothing against Vas himself or Rybka and that you are simply making sure the >>>>>>charter is followed in hope that someday this forum will go back to what it once >>>>>>was. It is odd but I miss the days of Robert and Vincent arguing over pointless >>>>>>side issues. At least then we where learning more about computer chess from 2 >>>>>>of the best if the field. Now of there is a discussion about use of center pawn >>>>>>structure in eval no one is interested in the discussion, it is pushed off the >>>>>>first page in a day and there is only 1 non Rybka related thread on the first >>>>>>page by morning. Ironically by the book builder of Rybka (That is not bad, just >>>>>>funny to me. It was a very good post). I hope that at least a few other people >>>>>>here feel the same way I do. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ryan >>>>> >>>>>Yes, the good old days with all the sloshy mud slinging. Much more exciting! >>>>>(Is that what you meant?) >>>>>S.Taylor >>>> >>>> >>>>No, sorry if I was not clear. I miss reading about computer chess, learning >>>>from the best, and people sharing ideas. This is the opposite of what Rybka is >>>>about as Vas has gone out of his way to hide what Rybka is doing and does not >>>>share ideas with the computer chess community. This is fine of course but >>>>reading the hype and watching a group of people pay to beta test Rybka is not >>>>fun for me. If others find this fun that is fine as well. I will just move to >>>>a forum that better fits what I am looking for and continue doing what I do. I >>>>hope this is more clear this time. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>Ryan Benitez >>> >>>You will find many technical posts of mine on this forum and in the archives. If >>>you want more technical discussions here, start contributing. >>> >>>Vas >> >>Most of your "many technical posts" were before Rybka's huge 800+ ELO jump (in >>roughly 1.5 years), i.e. post-CCT6 (Feb. 2004) where Rybka ranked 49th place. >> >>http://www.vrichey.de/cct6/index_table.htm >> >>But I'm surprised you jumped on this thread as the head-turning approach seems >>to be your modus operandi concerning recent "technical" threads concerning Rybka >>and its very unique behavior. > >Don't take this wrong, but I can't recall when I saw technical threads >discussing the unique behaviour of Hiarcs. At best, I've seen comments as to its >very selective search, or intelligent hueristics. In other words, nothing more >than what the web site says. > > Albert If someone posted an analysis clip where Hiarcs was reducing its total node count at a certain ply, I would respond to their question. If someone asked specifics about our king safety our pruning, I would be unable to directly respond to their question. It's odd that I'm getting more replies from Rybka Fan Club members than Vasik himself. Please don't feel the need for "attack mode" or "defense", I only asked a simple question for the _author_ to answer. Regards, -elc. > >> >>However, since you seem to be in a "technical" mood at the moment, please >>explain what Rybka is doing here: >> >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?485132 >> >>The thread has been posted and referenced a few times now and I would really >>like to hear the "technical" explanation from the author. >> >>Do comment. >> >>Regards, >> >>-elc.
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