Author: Andrew Walker
Date: 14:31:33 02/15/06
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On February 15, 2006 at 06:00:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 15, 2006 at 00:57:44, Andrew Walker wrote: > >>On February 14, 2006 at 22:22:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On February 14, 2006 at 17:14:09, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On February 14, 2006 at 16:39:50, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 14, 2006 at 16:36:32, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 14, 2006 at 11:52:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 14, 2006 at 11:45:30, Duncan Roberts wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On February 13, 2006 at 13:48:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You are missing a major problem. Many professional engine authors have posted >>>>>>>>>here, and answered questions, and the like. But you have _not_ seen them >>>>>>>>>discussing marketing ideas, nor beta testing results, nor any of the other >>>>>>>>>"behind-the-scenes" activities that go on the the life-cycle of a professional >>>>>>>>>chess program. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That's the difference here. The discussions ventured off into the "would you >>>>>>>>>rather pay for a single copy or a subscription to multiple updates?" and so >>>>>>>>>forth, which _clearly_ do not belong here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That's that part of this that has gone over the top. All the games played by >>>>>>>>>Rybka are fine. I can skip 'em if I am not interested, but they are about >>>>>>>>>computer chess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>changing the subject slightly, I would value your opinion on Rybka. Is it as >>>>>>>>good as people say it is. ? any comments generally about its strength. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>duncan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'm really the wrong one to ask. Crafty has been on ICC sporadically the last >>>>>>>few weeks, because of the offline testing I've been doing. So I have not had >>>>>>>the opportunity to watch very many games to develop an opinion about what Rybka >>>>>>>is doing better than everyone else... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Eventually I will start looking at ICC games and then perhaps will begin to see >>>>>>>what sort of "trends" I notice. >>>>>> >>>>>>It won't take many games to spot a few glaring ones. IMHO. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Mod objection! >>>>>Dont speak in secrets! >>>>>Speak so that even Rolf understands what you are saying. >>>>>Otherweise beheading should be appropriate. >>>>>Rolf [= 5 sentences] >>>> >>>>:) The secret is more in 'how' Rybka does what it does differently. Seeing part >>>>of 'what' it does that is different from other programs won't take many games to >>>>become visible. >>>> >>>> Albert >>>\ >>> >>>I've found that the "how" is pretty easy, once the "what" is found. There are a >>>couple of passed pawn issues I have already noticed and even done a few changes >>>for myself... >> >>We'll be closely looking at the changes section :-) >> >>Andrew > >"Would you rather pay two bucks for a single look or 120 bucks for a >subscription to multiple looks in a month?" > >[Excuse me, couldnt resist... I would pay a lot for the rights to work with >Bob's mind; it would influence me! Last time I subscribed to Madonna's gym. Now >I can do the 'knods in my legs' thing all by myself...] I think I know were this quote comes from. I'll be looking at Bob's changes for my own curiosity, I doubt I'll be writing a chess engine in the next 10 years, unless I clone that 1200 character or whatever engine someone linked to. No one would suspect :-) Andrew
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